Comments Thread For: Lemieux To Be Evaluated By Doctor, Nutritionist Over Weight Issue

[ShoulderRoll]

Its for sure unprofessional of Lemieux (or anyone else) to not come in on weight. I wouldn't disagree with that. I'm just saying if I was in the boxing business I'd look at De La Rosa worse for not playing ball & fighting a guy who's 3.6lbs heavier than him (with some $ incentive obviously). The show must go on.

Idk all the details with money offered or not offered or how much it was or wasn't & maybe my opinion would change with that info being known, but from the story I read + an assumption De La Rosa was offered fair market value by Lemieux's people for an overage in a non-title fight I side with Lemieux in a lesser of two evils situation.

I take the opposite stance. It's good that De La Rosa didn't agree to go through with the fight...that way the resulting drama, media attention, and embarrassment that Golden Boy suffered will make it less likely that this happens again.

If they can make the problem go away just by throwing money at it then there is no incentive to require more professionalism from everybody involved.

[Eff Pandas]

I take the opposite stance. It's good that De La Rosa didn't agree to go through with the fight...that way the resulting drama, media attention, and embarrassment that Golden Boy suffered will make it less likely that this happens again.

If they can make the problem go away just by throwing money at it then there is no incentive to require more professionalism from everybody involved.

For sure they need a better protocol setup to deal with guys coming in over, which is just gonna be something that happens from time to time like it or not.

I think it should be added to contracts initially. If a guy is xlbs over he gives y% of his purse to the other guy, if he's xlbs+1 over the fight is off. The fighters can agree on the value of the x's & y's. That would make it a much easier transition for the promoter to deal with & less a dramatic situation like this has apparently become.

This was a whatever fight so I suspect it'll have virtually no impact on anything, but this is for sure a problem boxing has to contend with that it hasn't streamlined a solution for very well.

[Beercules]

Still P4P #1 dish IMO.

[roademier]

50% of Lemieux"s purse would've been a fair offer to keep the fight on

[jaded]

Does De La Rosa still get his contracted purse in this case?

[Porter's Dad]

Good on De La Rosa. Someone needed to make a stand on this point.

[BrometheusBob.]

What are they even evaluating? All they can really day is tell him he came in overweight and needs to drop some pounds or move up.

This isn't rocket science. Not like he was expecting to make the weight and then was shocked to see that he was 2.6lbs over the catchweight.

[ИATAS]

Good on De La Rosa. Someone needed to make a stand on this point.

Yeah except in this case apparently de la rosa was suspended for not fighting:

http://itrboxing.com/2016/03/11/davi...ded-fight-off/

That's according to The Raging Babe. Not sure if its true or not, if so I can't recall of something like that ever happening before.

Apparently Lemieux was going to be giving up 30-40% of his purse. Personally I think la rosa should have taken it, was brought in to lose anyways but tbh I don't care, wasn't a good fight by any means, just a meaningless tune up for Lemieux.

[PunchyPotorff]

Don't know why anyone gives a **** about that hype job!

Oh I don't know, maybe it's because he usually wins, is always in exciting fights, has insane power... you know, just the usual stuff that makes fans become fans of a fighter. Not rocket science.

And here is the problem...

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“We never thought this would happen for two pounds,” said Marc Ramsay, Lemieux’s trainer told the Montreal Gazette. “We all thought it was going to be okay. We’d pay the 20 per cent and it would be enough."

They fully expected that cheating on the scales would be fine and they could just buy the opponent into fighting on while being cheated.

Any fighter who misses weight should see the same outcome: miss weight, fight cancelled.

They said it was a problem, and if you do some checking you'd see that it almost always happens that paying the opponent some money makes the fight go on as planned. This was just one of the rare exceptions. They NEVER said they thought they could cheat. And they're proving it by having the guy analyzed to see if his body can or can't make MW any more. IOW they're doing the exact right thing. I'm a fan but I'm not happy it was cancelled, and he will need to get it together so this never happens again, be it at MW or SMW. Yes, what Lemieux did was unprofessional, but at the same time De La Rosa should've just taken the money and went ahead with the fight. Now, he'll probably end up with less fights for refusing this fight. Plus no payday yesterday. And supposedly suspended 6 months. Not a smart move either.

He eats like a ******.He eats a lot of food You should not eat in a pre fight regime.Dates, mejdool. Watch when he is feeding His daughter, in the video before the Hbo documental, He eats the wrong food to cut weight.He needs to cut without Sugars or too much carbs.Then the day of the fight Free luch, Like The ********s in America.They believe Free lunch is the Job Of our Government.

You're an idiot. I'll be 63 this year, and have voted dem most of the time, worked my azzoff since I was a teen, paid my way and would never want it any other way, and will keep working til I croak off. And, even though it's shocking to you repubiots, I'm just like the vast majority of dems. And, you can add clear thinkers to our lot. You vote against your own self interests repeatedly, then call the dems loony? What b.s.

Includes Free food(Food Stamps? Unemployemnet benefits for 2 years renewbable for other 2 yeras, benefits for women who are single so they do not marry to keep cashing our money?Free health care is not being deducted 200 dollars from your paycheck like In America right?From your own money without asking you!!! Unfunded liabilities like pensions fpor government workers who are retired who receive more than an active person government jobs being created by the govermnment is not the Government job, it is the private sector to do that .Make a government bigger and see how your liberties dissapear.

If you're so worried about your money disappearing, make some noise about corporate welfare. Every job must be filled by someone, and every worker deserves a living wage. If biz doesn't pay it, we taxpayers have to make up the difference. Walmart (and other corporations) encourage their employees to apply for food stamps etc. I'd rather biz pays their employees a living wage than me having to subsidize corporate welfare b.s. Get mad about that, not the 3-4% of individuals who cheat welfare. Corporate welfare is the big bucks we middle class schmucks pay out.

The job of the Governement is to protect our liberties, not giving us Free lunches.That is socialism or puopulism.The government is not be a participant of the markets, but a regulator. If You are a participant being the regulator, where is the Free Market?It is Fascism the merging of Government with Corporations.learn that before defending Bull****!

The faux 'news' FB page is where you need to head to. BTW, Reagan was an idiot. Trickle down never worked. That's why this country is so twisted up.

[aldo5408]

For sure they need a better protocol setup to deal with guys coming in over, which is just gonna be something that happens from time to time like it or not.

I think it should be added to contracts initially. If a guy is xlbs over he gives y% of his purse to the other guy, if he's xlbs+1 over the fight is off. The fighters can agree on the value of the x's & y's. That would make it a much easier transition for the promoter to deal with & less a dramatic situation like this has apparently become.

This was a whatever fight so I suspect it'll have virtually no impact on anything, but this is for sure a problem boxing has to contend with that it hasn't streamlined a solution for very well.

He offered him three grand more. Come on man its about time someone does what's right. Lemux fatass asked for a catchhweight and still couldnt make it