Comments Thread For: Povetkin's Promoter Explains Decision To Bring Wilder To Russia

[eco1]

Get ready to use that excuse, because povetkin will be on the canvas and you will be looking for excuses.

dude, Bum is a Bum.

The guy has no coordination, he can only hit.
HE was loosing a fight against ****ty Spilka!

AJ, F and any good fighter beats him.

What a joke the HW division is with this clown as a champion.

[RussB23]

dude, Bum is a Bum.

The guy has no coordination, he can only hit.
HE was loosing a fight against ****ty Spilka!

AJ, F and any good fighter beats him.

What a joke the HW division is with this clown as a champion.

Lol AJ? the guy with an even worse resume and almost got KOD by whyte lol ?. Spilka is a southpaw with good movement thats why he gave wilder problems. Povetkin isnt a southpaw and doesnt have good movement. When you really look at it he doesnt have much too trouble wilder except for power. Wilder on the other hand is taller , faster, and probably more powerful. Also has a better jab.

[techliam]

Lol AJ? the guy with an even worse resume and almost got KOD by whyte lol ?. Spilka is a southpaw with good movement thats why he gave wilder problems. Povetkin isnt a southpaw and doesnt have good movement. When you really look at it he doesnt have much too trouble wilder except for power. Wilder on the other hand is taller , faster, and probably more powerful. Also has a better jab.

Conveniently leaving out that Povetkin is a very good counter puncher, and displayed that skill just as well against a taller opponent in Wach, and was able to negate Wlad's jab somewhat. Wilder's jab is nowhere near as good as Wlad's so I have no worries there. At many times during their fight, Povetkin ducked the jab and was in prime position to land a left hook (to which Wlad grabbed and grappled to negate it, Wilder hasn't shown to do this at all). Wilder is probably clumsier and less defensively sound (or at the very least, equal to) Wach too - his last 3 opponents have been able to hit Wilder with relative ease, and all 3 have been severely mediocre opponents who haven't cracked the top 20 at HW. I don't see how Wilder is faster, he hasn't displayed effective speed at all, apart from against the very slow Stiverne. The lack of proper analysis in your post is concerning, but predictable... Wilder can very well win, but it'd be a wild haymaker due to a lapse in Povetkin's defence.

You highlight very well how boxing can sucker fans in to extort money. What the hell has Wilder done to deserve a fan like this? He hasn't beaten anyone of any note, nor looks to be a GGG-esque destroyer at HW. He has struggled and struggled, but you seem to be a fan without anything going for him, other than his paper title he was gifted. At least be rational and wait till Wilder achieves something first.

[RussB23]

Conveniently leaving out that Povetkin is a very good counter puncher, and displayed that skill just as well against a taller opponent in Wach, and was able to negate Wlad's jab somewhat. Wilder's jab is nowhere near as good as Wlad's so I have no worries there. At many times during their fight, Povetkin ducked the jab and was in prime position to land a left hook (to which Wlad grabbed and grappled to negate it, Wilder hasn't shown to do this at all). Wilder is probably clumsier and less defensively sound (or at the very least, equal to) Wach too - his last 3 opponents have been able to hit Wilder with relative ease, and all 3 have been severely mediocre opponents who haven't cracked the top 20 at HW. I don't see how Wilder is faster, he hasn't displayed effective speed at all, apart from against the very slow Stiverne. The lack of proper analysis in your post is concerning, but predictable... Wilder can very well win, but it'd be a wild haymaker due to a lapse in Povetkin's defence.

You highlight very well how boxing can sucker fans in to extort money. What the hell has Wilder done to deserve a fan like this? He hasn't beaten anyone of any note, nor looks to be a GGG-esque destroyer at HW. He has struggled and struggled, but you seem to be a fan without anything going for him, other than his paper title he was gifted. At least be rational and wait till Wilder achieves something first.

Wach was tagging povetkin in the early rounds and he is a slow bum. What do you think wilder is going to do? Damn you guys overrate povetkin on here, you act like hes mike tyson or something when hes just a basic fighter. Straight up and down no special effects.

[techliam]

Wach was tagging povetkin in the early rounds and he is a slow bum. What do you think wilder is going to do? Damn you guys overrate povetkin on here, you act like hes mike tyson or something when hes just a basic fighter. Straight up and down no special effects.

Well you evaded most of my post, not too surprising..

The only thing of note that Wach landed in the fight was a few jabs - of which most were answered with a sharp Povetkin left hook or a straight right. It was pretty consistent too. There was some pretty neat body work done by Povetkin also. Its a fight worth watching again.

Its weird, you're claiming we're overrating a fighter - but its your post that overrates a fighter. You're saying we are painting Povetkin up to be 'Tyson' - it may seem obvious to point this out, but it doesn't require Tyson to beat Wilder, far from it. Noone has ever claimed that. We're saying Povetkin can beat Wilder because Wilder isn't very good, not because Povetkin is Tyson. You've added that weight yourself, and you're far overrating Wilder to claim that you need a fighter like Tyson to beat him. Thats just downright laughable and his last 3 opponents prove that beyond doubt.

[GMAN SUPREME]

so hes basically admitting he could made way more money in usa and everything else but he didnt want to experiment lol what a joke

how about those UConn huskies.

[RussB23]

Well you evaded most of my post, not too surprising..

The only thing of note that Wach landed in the fight was a few jabs - of which most were answered with a sharp Povetkin left hook or a straight right. It was pretty consistent too. There was some pretty neat body work done by Povetkin also. Its a fight worth watching again.

Its weird, you're claiming we're overrating a fighter - but its your post that overrates a fighter. You're saying we are painting Povetkin up to be 'Tyson' - it may seem obvious to point this out, but it doesn't require Tyson to beat Wilder, far from it. Noone has ever claimed that. We're saying Povetkin can beat Wilder because Wilder isn't very good, not because Povetkin is Tyson. You've added that weight yourself, and you're far overrating Wilder to claim that you need a fighter like Tyson to beat him. Thats just downright laughable and his last 3 opponents prove that beyond doubt.

Wilder is actually good. You will see that on april 21st and jump off of the povetkin bandwagon that day also. Then will claim povetkin wasnt even that good . Wlad beat him with just clinching lol. Wilder will beat him with the jab in his face and a straight right.

[techliam]

Wilder is actually good. You will see that on april 21st and jump off of the povetkin bandwagon that day also. Then will claim povetkin wasnt even that good . Wlad beat him with just clinching lol. Wilder will beat him with the jab in his face and a straight right.

At least you accept your irrationality in this scenario - your argument is Wilder is good because he will win. I don't need to point out whats wrong with that statement.

Wilder may well show us something we haven't seen, and i'd be as excited as anyone if he does. But as of now, he hasn't shown anything that convinces me he'd beat Povetkin.

If he wins, i'll give him credit of course. It's a fantastic win. He'd take Povetkin's place as the 3rd best HW on the planet, behind World Champion Fury, and Wlad. He'd definitely be a realistic contender to the throne.

[tiliheels]

How can you make statements like that then get on GGG for wanting to fight for his divisional title at the traditional weight that the title is fought in? Cotto and Canelo have made a very bad trend for a weight class that has so much history. What is wrong with offering to fight Floyd at 154? No way Floyd comes up, Floyd wouldnt even fight Canelo at 154, had to drain him also. 155 for the MW title is atrocious and should not be allowed period. There are weight class for a reason, catchweights have been abused terribly.

Say what you want about Wilders choices of opponents. How can you convince someone that he wanted to fight a top ten but they all ran, when guys in the top 40 were willing to fight him? Wilder wanted Arreola, who knew himself he couldnt make a fight of it anymore. Wilder wants his easy plain and simple. Has a ways to go to prove otherwise.

wat the **** does GGG have to do with us seeing top 1o hw's pull out of the wilder fight? teper..drugs..klit/furry taken up...glaskov ran away..the rest.are just padded up records imo...stiverne already beat..pulev was on a year of inactivity and not seeking figths..already beat stiverne...

now go ahead and pick 2 that he didnt fight..splika was a good choice of opponent...
he wants his easy, but he's going to russia? meanwhile ggg wouldnt go to mexico for canelo and u know it..he surely wouldnt go to 155 for him...DONT PLAY WITH ME DUDE

[RussB23]

At least you accept your irrationality in this scenario - your argument is Wilder is good because he will win. I don't need to point out whats wrong with that statement.

Wilder may well show us something we haven't seen, and i'd be as excited as anyone if he does. But as of now, he hasn't shown anything that convinces me he'd beat Povetkin.

If he wins, i'll give him credit of course. It's a fantastic win. He'd take Povetkin's place as the 3rd best HW on the planet, behind World Champion Fury, and Wlad. He'd definitely be a realistic contender to the throne.

No you are an irrational hater who refuses to give any credit to the man. I actually can acknowledge povetkin is solid , but hes not beating wilder. Hes too short, and has too short of a reach. That means he will have to get on the inside the whole fight and avoid alot of big punches in the process and hes never shown any great headmovement or defense so he wont be able to do that thats why he really struggles against taller fighters. Wilder will jab him and hit him from a distance and either ko him early or once povetkin is worn out from not being able to get inside.