Poll: if an athlete cheated and got away with it does it still count as a legit win?

[Spoon23]

lol. Didn't even respond to me directly. You scared?

The question is did he take it or not? For some reason he had a severely torn rotator cuff and didn't show any pain.

Did he try to cheat?
He said Toradol is like a vitamin. lol

If he believes Toradol is like a vitamin, did he take it before?

HE WAS BUSTED IN A FLAT OUT LIE. This is your GOD.

Lol

That is why you

are

RED

Tarodol is not an illegal substance, but to satisfy your curiosity. If it was an illegal substance.

Where was the performance gain? Knowing Pac didn't get any Tarodol shot on that fight. Think hard. And maybe next time you can be a better poster.

[Spoon23]

PAC could have had a cortisol shot.

I don't know if anyone can prove either guy cheated conclusively

We got conspiracy theories galore

Lol that's it. Where's your proof? Hearsay is all you got? That's enough for you to convict Pac that night? Smh

You compare that to the tons of red flags Froid had that night. And you say Pac is equally likely he cheated with just hearsay? A lame Rumor is enough for you to convict Pac lol

Nice! I can see how level headed you are.

Carry on.

[Zaroku]

Lol that's it. Where's your proof? Hearsay is enough for you to convict Pac that night? Smh

You compare that to the tons of red flags Froid had that night. And you say both cheated. Nice! I can see how level headed you are.

Carry on.

I believe Floyd cheated.. I stick by that!

But nothing is going to happen about it.

He got his TUE, but I think that stinks.. Just an uninformed opinion.

[travestyny]

Lol

That is why you

are

RED

Where is the performance gain? Think hard. And maybe next time you can be a better poster.

If you could read, you would see that I said he seemingly TRIED to cheat.
1. He asked the commission for Toradol to treat his shoulder, but later said that there was no shoulder injury and that he only wanted to use Toradol the same way he would use vitamins. lol

This brings up some questions:
Was there a shoulder injury or not?

Did Manny magically predict that he would have a shoulder injury? What a coincidence. He claimed to have a shoulder injury to take Toradol, then said there was no injury, then stated he suffered a shoulder injury during the fight.

Did he really just want to cheat with Toradol?

Has he used Toradol in the past?

Did he secretly use it this time and that is why there was no apparent discomfort from his severely torn rotator cuff?

You do realize what would be the advantage of having a Toradol shot, right?

These are common sense questions that should be asked when discussing cheaters.

[Spoon23]

TravestNY,

I've answered all that in the IV thread.

But I'll leave you with this one to ponder on.

This would be the last. If you need more go read my post in the IV gate thread.


ive seen it all with regards to the surgery. you fl0mos think arum forced a world renowned sports surgeon, considered by many as a super surgeon to stake his career reputation to fake a surgery on pacquiao?

some of these floyd fans really are empty between the ears.


Floyd holding pac's arm


http://boxingvideo.org/wp-content/up...-1-150x150.jpg


Torn rotator cuff red mark @ right shoulder. It bled out.



Dr.Neal ElAttrache (the same doctor who performed the surgery on Kobe Bryant's). Explains Pacquiao's rotator cuff injury.




Now in Froid's case not even a Doctor or at least an attending physician can vouch for his severe dehydration

No Doctor has the balls to say he certified Froid. None so who's really is guilty here?



No official reason for dehydration.

To this day.. Nothing..








TBE Testosterone Below Epistestosterone! 49-r0id!

[travestyny]

Floyd holding pac's arm

No, that never happens in boxing. :-|

Torn rotator cuff red mark @ right shoulder. It bled out.

1. Can you confirm that rotator cuffs bleed out that way? I haven't been able to find any evidence of that.

2. Can you confirm that this mark on his shoulder isn't from being hit by a punch on the shoulder or from the ropes? Internal bleeding is a dark purple color. This looks like a skin abrasion. The same ones he had across his forehead from the steady diet of jabs and straight rights Mayweather gave him.

I couldn't find any evidence of this mark in round 4. I also couldn't find any evidence of this mark in round 5. Maybe there is a little something there in round 6? What round is your picture from?

Dr.Neal ElAttrache (the same doctor who performed the surgery on Kobe Bryant's). Explains Pacquiao's rotator cuff injury.

The good doctor says this tear is significant. Why didn't Pacquiao seem to have any pain at all? Did this doctor just go in to look around? What about therapy that Manny said he never attended? You don't find any of this fishy at all?

Now in Froid's case not even a Doctor or at least an attending physician can vouch for his severe dehydration

No Doctor has the balls to say he certified Froid. None so who's really is guilty here?

No official reason for dehydration.

To this day.. Nothing..

"Under the WADA International Standard for the Protection of Privacy and Personal Information (ISPPPI), TUE applications are treated as confidential information and are not to be disclosed beyond the extent necessary to process the application."
http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uplo...Tom-Hauser.pdf


Review the video. Tell me when you believe that shoulder mark shows up. I'll gladly take a look. And if you find any evidence that a rotator cuff injury bleeds out that way, please share.

[Spoon23]

TravestNY,

As I said before, I've answered that so many times in the IV thread. Look it up. Secondly, You are not worthy of my time. Thirdly, this thread only calls for your vote. If you want to talk peds there other thread topics to go on detail.

Last but not the least, what you talk about is not in context of what is asked of you in os thread. So that again shows your lack of comprehension. Anyway, I don't give a **** ass what you think. You being red for 9 years in NSB shows how unworthy you are of my time. You my friend lack credibility to post.

Carry on.

[travestyny]

TravestNY,

As I said before, I've answered that so many times in the IV thread. Look it up. Secondly, You are not worthy of my time. Thirdly, this thread only calls for your vote. If you want to talk peds there other thread topics to go on detail.

Last but not the least, what you talk about is not in context of what is asked of you in os thread. So that again shows your lack of comprehension. Anyway, I don't give a **** ass what you think. You being red for 9 years in NSB shows how unworthy you are of my time. You my friend lack credibility to post.

Carry on.

It's all good. All I ask is that if you refuse to respond to the merits of my posts, since I lack credibility to post according to you, then just keep my name out of your posts. Stop the b*tch moves. I, in return, won't respond to anything you post. Deal?

Good.

[NapalmKnuckles]

Can you delegitimize an official win based off of speculation?

No, you can not. Your opinions are just that, the records remain the same and you're just left creating repetitive threads like these. Embarrassing.

[AllEyesOpen]

These pointless spoon threads are like the Hydra, embarrass him in one, two more will take it's place.