The Ring belt is worthless. TBRB should be used from now on

[about.thousands]

You're falling into the same trap as sanctioning bodies, you want the to declare a champ just cause it vacant,. Even though there's a higher rated fighter ready to face the winner.

Stripping champs without decent wins in years is also a good policy. Rigo has had it tough but he's far from blameless for his plight

No it's not a good policy. They're no better than a sanctioning body when they start making arbitrary decisions. Tell me what sense this makes?

@Standing8ight @ringmagazine yeah, I know but ratings panel felt that the Frampton-Quigg winner should go thru Rigo to get the RING belt

— Douglass Fischer (@dougiefischer) March 1, 2016

If the board felt the title has to go thru Rigo why strip him? It makes no sense at all.

[HeroBando]

No it's not a good policy. They're no better than a sanctioning body when they start making arbitrary decisions. Tell me what sense this makes?

@Standing8ight @ringmagazine yeah, I know but ratings panel felt that the Frampton-Quigg winner should go thru Rigo to get the RING belt

— Douglass Fischer (@dougiefischer) March 1, 2016

If the board felt the title has to go thru Rigo why strip him? It makes no sense at all.

It's not arbitrary. Rule is, needs to fight a top 5 opponent in 2 years. That's reasonable. Because Rigo is ducked they gave him extra time and eventually a warning. Then he signed for ****ens and will not have faced top 10 comp in over 3 years.

[about.thousands]

It's not arbitrary. Rule is, needs to fight a top 5 opponent in 2 years. That's reasonable. Because Rigo is ducked they gave him extra time and eventually a warning. Then he signed for ****ens and will not have faced top 10 comp in over 3 years.

I'm talking about the 2vs3 being arbitrary. He signed ****ens after they stripped his belts and he couldn't get a mandatory fight against anyone. So they strip him but say the path to the title should go thru him. So what was the point of stripping his since they're still treating him as if he's still the lineal champ?

[HeroBando]

I'm talking about the 2vs3 being arbitrary. He signed ****ens after they stripped his belts and he couldn't get a mandatory fight against anyone. So they strip him but say the path to the title should go thru him. So what was the point of stripping his since they're still treating him as if he's still the lineal champ?

Point is, you can't become Ring champ unless you go through him. That also makes sense

[-PBP-]

Lol @ these ignoramus casuals hoping to ignore Rigo. Good job Ring.

[Dr Rumack]

The Ring made the right call here. The wrong call was ever opening the door to these lesser made divisional champions.

And as far as I know, the TBRB have no intention to ever actually issue belts. I don't see that changing any time soon either.

[original zero]

Ring Magazine has been corrupt since its inception, just like the sanctioning bodies.

The difference is that the Ring title is mythical AND it is OWNED BY AN HBO PROMOTER!

So as long as every championship is corrupt (except the IBF), give me the championships that a) aren't mythical and b) aren't owned by a promoter.

I respect TBRB's ratings and it can be useful to glance at division rankings that unify the four leagues into one set of rankings, but ultimately non-org rankings are pointless as long as the networks, fighters, promoters & managers prefer to allow the orgs to rule the sport.

Would it be nice to have a premier league, clearly a class above the rest? Sure. And maybe Haymon can make it happen some day.

But until then, we have multiple leagues and unless you're the champion of at least one of them, it really doesn't matter what a magazine says.

[JmH Reborn]

TBRB is just as flawed as any rankings system tbh. If rankings were handed over to TBRB expect the p4p list to be a bunch of babbyweight fighters who would have a 50/50 chance of getting sparked in a bar fight by a normal sized man.

Your interpretation of what p4p means is flawed. p4p means that if those "babyweight" men were the same size as the "normal" sized man, that those babyweight guys would win.

Tyson Fury is the HW champ; but he'll never be recognized as p4p because frankly - he isn't very good. If Inoue or Mayweather was 6'2 and 220 pounds, their skillsets would ensure that they'd mop the floor with Fury. That's what p4p means - assuming that all the guys were the same, these top 10-20 guys would rise to the top.

Gonzalez is a "babyweight" as you indicate - but he's by far amongst the best fighters in the world regardless of weight and he'd dominate any division he was in if he was fortunate to be the same size you indicate is for "normal" sized.

[djt117]

No it's not a good policy. They're no better than a sanctioning body when they start making arbitrary decisions. Tell me what sense this makes?

@Standing8ight @ringmagazine yeah, I know but ratings panel felt that the Frampton-Quigg winner should go thru Rigo to get the RING belt

— Douglass Fischer (@dougiefischer) March 1, 2016

If the board felt the title has to go thru Rigo why strip him? It makes no sense at all.

I disagree. There has to be some hard time cutoff on the belt. Otherwise if a fighter never formally declares retirement in order to keep his name/fame/relevance, he could theoretically hold the (RING version of) the lineal title for years without defending against a ranked opponent (or for that matter, without even defending at all) just because he never said the magic words, "I retire".

18 months is reasonable. While it isn't fair that Rigo got shamelessly ducked, if the 18 month cutoff is extended based on the situation (except maybe a brief and limited extension for an unquestionably legitimate & serious injury that pushes a bout back such that it is rescheduled just beyond the 18 month window), it further diminishes the meaning of the RING title and makes it more like an alphabet organization where the granting of extensions and/or other favors is often blatantly political.

By stripping Rigo, RING maintained uniformity in enforcement of a well-reasoned policy that makes their title (though imperfect), far more legitimate than the alphabet org's in most cases.

In other words, RING had to strip Rigo so that the next time say for example, a Haymon fighter goes 18 months without defending against a ranked contender and gets stripped, people can't call BS and say it's a GBP conspiracy.

At the same time, RING showed Rigo the due respect he is owed by not giving the title to the winner of a fight between two guys that blatantly avoided him.

[soul_survivor]

Rigo deserved to be stripped and Frampton deserves the number one ranking in his division.