The Ring belt is worthless. TBRB should be used from now on

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  • -Kev-
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    #11
    They stripped Rigondeaux because that is their rules.

    1. The Champion loses a fight in the weight class in which he is champion.
    2. The Champion moves to another weight class.
    3. The Champion does not schedule a fight in any weight class for 18 months.
    4. The Champion does not schedule a fight at his championship weight for 18 months (even if he fights at another weight).
    5. The Champion does not schedule a fight with a Top-5 contender from any weight class for two years.
    6. The Champion retires.
    7. The Champion tests positive for a banned substance.



    I like Rigo, but I like organizations following rules even more. Except for the IBF and their crazy mando's.

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    • boliodogs
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      #12
      Ring magazine is just a magazine and nothing more. They have a right to their opinion but it means no more than any other opinion. They changed their rules a lot and often don't follow their own rules. The magazine is owned by Oscar the promoter who isn't neutral. The magazine used to carry more weight before Oscar bought it and it was a better magazine.

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      • BoxingIsGreat
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        #13
        Use your eyes. No organization can tell you what to think.

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        • HeroBando
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          #14
          For once the Ring does the right thing with their rankings and sure enough some is whining. They're actually doing a better job now that Chuck Giampa doesn't run the rankings. Stripping champs who don't have a solid win in years is also right.

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          • about.thousands
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            #15
            Originally posted by -Kev-
            They stripped Rigondeaux because that is their rules.

            1. The Champion loses a fight in the weight class in which he is champion.
            2. The Champion moves to another weight class.
            3. The Champion does not schedule a fight in any weight class for 18 months.
            4. The Champion does not schedule a fight at his championship weight for 18 months (even if he fights at another weight).
            5. The Champion does not schedule a fight with a Top-5 contender from any weight class for two years.
            6. The Champion retires.
            7. The Champion tests positive for a banned substance.



            I like Rigo, but I like organizations following rules even more. Except for the IBF and their crazy mando's.
            There should only be 4 rules.

            The champ makes a permanent move to a new weight class

            The champ retires

            The champ is beaten.

            Test positive for a banned substance

            Those other rules makes it to subjective. They stripped rigo without considering the politics of the sport out of his control. You have the 2&3 fighting, which according to their rules can determine the new #1. But they decide not to make that decision. It's ******. The champ should be determined in the ring not in a board meeting.

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            • HeroBando
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              #16
              Originally posted by about.thousands
              There should only be 4 rules.

              The champ makes a permanent move to a new weight class

              The champ retires

              The champ is beaten.

              Test positive for a banned substance

              Those other rules makes it to subjective. They stripped rigo without considering the politics of the sport out of his control. You have the 2&3 fighting, which according to their rules can determine the new #1. But they decide not to make that decision. It's ******. The champ should be determined in the ring not in a board meeting.
              It says can, not must. So why are you complaining when they do the right thing and not crown Frampton Ring champ? Sounds like your issue is with Rigo strippage, which is an old topic. They gave him lots of leeway, he wasn't gonna fight top 5 opponent in over 3 years!

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                #17
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                It says can, not must. So why are you complaining when they do the right thing and not crown Frampton Ring champ? Sounds like your issue is with Rigo strippage, which is an old topic. They gave him lots of leeway, he wasn't gonna fight top 5 opponent in over 3 years!
                My issue is there being a vacancy when there shouldn't be one. You strip Rigo but don't act on a rule which allows you to crown another champ. Why? With the top 5 rule they don't take into account the politics of the sport. Rigo is truly the most avoided fighter in the sport. You're supposed to lose the belt in the ring not a boardroom. Fighters might as well start paying sanctioning fees to the Ring belt because it's just like an ABC organization.

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                • HeroBando
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by about.thousands
                  My issue is there being a vacancy when there shouldn't be one. You strip Rigo but don't act on a rule which allows you to crown another champ. Why? With the top 5 rule they don't take into account the politics of the sport. Rigo is truly the most avoided fighter in the sport. You're supposed to lose the belt in the ring not a boardroom. Fighters might as well start paying sanctioning fees to the Ring belt because it's just like an ABC organization.
                  The rule allows, it doesn't mandate. So they do the right thing and not promote Frampton to champ. Good work Ring mag.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by HeroBando
                    The rule allows, it doesn't mandate. So they do the right thing and not promote Frampton to champ. Good work Ring mag.
                    The right thing would be not stripping Rigo. But now you have a vacancy and this is the closest you'll get to having a Ring Champ and you don't make it a fight for the Ring belt? And your excuse is the board decided not to? Frampton isn't fighting Rigo so they still gonna end up with a 1 vs 3 or 4 to determine the champ. It's ******. When you refuse to fight the lineal champ like Quigg and Frampton did they should lose their place too. The reason they didn't decide to make this fight for the lineal title is because they knew they messed up stripping Rigo and one of the two fighters who avoided him would be awarded the title. Since the title isn't determined in the ring anymore they should start mandating fights. The Ring is worthless now.

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                    • HeroBando
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by about.thousands
                      The right thing would be not stripping Rigo. But now you have a vacancy and this is the closest you'll get to having a Ring Champ and you don't make it a fight for the Ring belt? And your excuse is the board decided not to? Frampton isn't fighting Rigo so they still gonna end up with a 1 vs 3 or 4 to determine the champ. It's ******. When you refuse to fight the lineal champ like Quigg and Frampton did they should lose their place too. The reason they didn't decide to make this fight for the lineal title is because they knew they messed up stripping Rigo and one of the two fighters who avoided him would be awarded the title. Since the title isn't determined in the ring anymore they should start mandating fights. The Ring is worthless now.
                      You're falling into the same trap as sanctioning bodies, you want the to declare a champ just cause it vacant,. Even though there's a higher rated fighter ready to face the winner.

                      Stripping champs without decent wins in years is also a good policy. Rigo has had it tough but he's far from blameless for his plight

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