What the definition of outboxing someone ?

[Fangedgrowl]

When did Floyd hit one time and hold? At the end of his career when he was a shot fighter? Running around the ring, gasping for air, clinching a MILLION times! Again, we cant change history and say thats what got him to where he is today!

Whitaker was a flashy bobnweave, showboat for the audience, defensive specialist!

Floyd is an athletic version of Ward! He used to counter from every single angle available, lead shots as well.

Whitaker would outbox and humiliate JMM, but he wouldnt do half of the things Floyd did to him! Floyd did pure magic on that man!

Whitaker was sloppy most of his career!

Dude you obviously dont watch alot of fights. Whitaker stood inside the pocket alot more than Mayweather and slipped punches. He didn't hold near as much and he hit harder. Mayweather was probably better at one ounch accuracy but that was it. Plus Whitaker fought better fighters too. He wasn't afraid to challenge or put in extra advantages for himself.

[therealpugilist]

Whitaker did not hit one time than hold the only thing they did alike was bend down past the waist to avoid a punch and I don't recall Whitaker always holding

why do people on this site act like clinching isnt a part of the sport.....Mayweather aint John Ruiz'...he mustve beat one of your favorite fighters recently???

Fighting out of the shoulder roll, you hardly clinch. Clinching is a part of the tactics to make an opponent reset and to break the action and their rhythm


Every fighter in history has clinched. Especially when you're hurt or the fighter's best chance is inside...you are supposed to disarm them, not just stand and take turns hitting each other.


Whitaker hit off the break and held behind the head while throwing uppercuts...thats illegal...Excessive clinching is illegal....clinching an opponet with your back to the ropes or they are too close is not....If Hearns knew how to clinch he'd have beat Leonard the first time around.

[therealpugilist]

Dude you obviously dont watch alot of fights. Whitaker stood inside the pocket alot more than Mayweather and slipped punches. He didn't hold near as much and he hit harder. Mayweather was probably better at one ounch accuracy but that was it. Plus Whitaker fought better fighters too. He wasn't afraid to challenge or put in extra advantages for himself.

you do realize before floyd fought at 147 and up his ko ratio was like 70% while sweet pea fought in at 135-154 and has a sub 50% ko ratio....17 kos in like 45 fights....he didnt hit harder than Floyd.


As far as better.....who was his best Opponents? Mayweather beat more champions and hall of famers than Him...Buddy McGirt and Chavez are not better than Pacquaio, JMM, Mosley etc.

[Evil_Meat]

What about a fight like Sam Peter vs James Toney II. I remember people were saying Toney was outboxed but really he was more so outworked IMO. Would you guys agree Toney was outboxed in that fight?

[MurkaMan]

Dude you obviously dont watch alot of fights. Whitaker stood inside the pocket alot more than Mayweather and slipped punches. He didn't hold near as much and he hit harder. Mayweather was probably better at one ounch accuracy but that was it. Plus Whitaker fought better fighters too. He wasn't afraid to challenge or put in extra advantages for himself.

None of this is true Lol And you keep lying about holding! Again, when did Floyd start doing that? In his last few fights when he was old as dirt?

When Whitaker slip punches? In a small handful of fights? Where he ALMOST looked as good as Floyd? I remember him getting his azzwhipped doing all that bobbing and weaving because thats all he can do! He was flash and no substance! He looked sloppy when he slipped against Oscar, and was stumbling all over the place, with his feet!

Maybe he did slip shots more than Floyd, because Floyd has more options! He will counter, step aside, duck, slip, shoot backwards on his feet! Floyd isnt a defensive specialist!

He's a fullblown tactician who cant get hit! Like an athletic version of Ward or Hopkins!

And challenges? Mayweather is ALWAYS at a disadvantage! He is ALWAYS 15lbs lighter than his opponents, with a power disadvantage! And dominates on pure skills! Facing giant young fighters!

I dont think I have ever seen a fighter like Floyd, and Pernell is an awful example!

[M Bison]

Landing a few more jabs than the other person = SCHOOLED!
Clinching someone so many times.
Headbutting your opponent until their opponent eventually has to quit yet you suffer no punishment.

Boxing School.

[Luilun]

why do people on this site act like clinching isnt a part of the sport.....Mayweather aint John Ruiz'...he mustve beat one of your favorite fighters recently???

Fighting out of the shoulder roll, you hardly clinch. Clinching is a part of the tactics to make an opponent reset and to break the action and their rhythm


Every fighter in history has clinched. Especially when you're hurt or the fighter's best chance is inside...you are supposed to disarm them, not just stand and take turns hitting each other.


Whitaker hit off the break and held behind the head while throwing uppercuts...thats illegal...Excessive clinching is illegal....clinching an opponet with your back to the ropes or they are too close is not....If Hearns knew how to clinch he'd have beat Leonard the first time around.

Most fighters get warned for excessive holding or clinching but a selected few are allowed to break the rules. You need to read about the rules in boxing about holding

[GOT BEEF?]

Pacquiao vs Rios/Bradley/Algieri/Cotto/ODLH

Castillo vs Mayweather

[LoadedWraps]

Seems on here that to outbox someone you have to be completely defence minded, throw minimal punches, and throw no power shots or combinations.

Now to me this doesn't seem right.

Outboxing someone to me is winning rounds without hurting your opponent.

Didn't Fenech outbox Nelson in the first fight

Didn't Hatton outbox Tszyu ?

Boxing is HIT and not get hit.

Not, not get hit and then maybe hit if it's safe to do so.

You hit and don't get hit back, or at least constantly get the best of your opponent in exchanges and make them miss at least half of their punches. It really is that simple.

[therealpugilist]

Most fighters get warned for excessive holding or clinching but a selected few are allowed to break the rules. You need to read about the rules in boxing about holding

i know the rules. Just sound like a bunch of grown men whining and making excuses. Its so unbecoming.