Comments Thread For: Sanchez Eyes Golovkin Breaking Hopkins' Records at 160

[Eastcoast]

Hopkin's record is overblown, Monzon holds the true MW record. Hopkins never became the undisputed MW champ until he beat Trinidad, and then he only made 6 defenses. I also find it amusing that Bernard counts his 'NC' vs Robert Allen as one of his successful 20 defenses.

After Golovkin fights Wade, Alvarez will either vacate the WBC title making Golovkin the undisputed champion, or he'll fight him in September making Golovkin the champion then. After that point, he'll start racking up true MW champion defenses.

[Shadoww702]

I'll take that Lemiuex win over either Charlo twin, Andrade (is he still fighting?)...

By that I mean I'm not sure either Charlo brother or Andrade can even beat Lemi. Why does GGG have to fight what basically amount to nobodies? Is it just because they are american?

What does Lara give GGG? We all know he's just going to fight on the backfoot and GGG will just impose a solid jab and body shots ala Canelo but with more power and length...

It's an interesting fight just due to the way Lara fights. We are basically watching that fight to see if GGG can stop him...

The Charlo brothers are still young but doing much less than GGG and fighting what is mostly no hopers. Andrade hangs out with Mikey Garcia, Ward, and Gamboa. Lara would just serve to annoy the viewers if GGG doesn't stop him because we know it will be a visually atrocious fight and Jacobs seems more interested in enjoying his title and chilling. I've heard less from Jacobs now that he's champ and we'd all be hard pressed to think Jacobs and BJS aren't just wishing GGG would go away. But of all those guys, Jacobs is the best. He has the size and power to give GGG an actual fight but is his chin good enough.. We look down on Jacobs sometimes for that pirog loss but Pirog was legitimately a great fighter and it's not like Jacobs got buzzed by a light puncher... Pirog could crack and Jacobs didnt know how to deal with the overall craft (examples.. shifting, smart aggression, movement).




Also, whoever mentioned Tito and Oscar for B hop is reading too much into those. For those who FOLLOWED the sport itself knew that B Hop wasn't some random champ. Joppy? His claim to fame is beating an ancient Duran...or getting stopped by Tito. Either way, Tito and Oscar didnt belong at 160.


GGG can only beat who's in his era and he shouldnt be knocked like Wladimir was who as soon as he lost "oh the hw division is poppin"..no...it isnt. Wladimir just isnt unbeatable anymore but I digres... Some of these guys are "good fighters" til they get beaten by GGG and all of a sudden they're scrubs. Mw would be awesome without GGG so why not give him his props

None of those guys I mentioned lost to Alcine who was A HUGE under dog. Or was KTFO by Ricky Martin Rubio... Ggg fans LOVE to hype up those tomato cans.

U NEVER even knew who Pepe Lemuix was until he fought GGG. And now you have him in the boxing HOFame... Dont worry his limited skills will give him a few more losses to make ggg GREAT win turn back into a pumpkin.

[Shadoww702]

Hopkin's record is overblown, Monzon holds the true MW record. Hopkins never became the undisputed MW champ until he beat Trinidad, and then he only made 6 defenses. I also find it amusing that Bernard counts his 'NC' vs Robert Allen as one of his successful 20 defenses.

After Golovkin fights Wade, Alvarez will either vacate the WBC title making Golovkin the undisputed champion, or he'll fight him in September making Golovkin the champion then. After that point, he'll start racking up true MW champion defenses.

I'm sure when they fight u have Canelo losing by 1st round KO. Hell be soo scared he won't even come out of the corner from shock of seeing GGG. I'll bet the over when they fight... Hope your game?

[aboutfkntime]

The point that Isaac Clarke made earlier is valid.

You cannot count " interim champ " defenses.

Golovkin did not become the WBA " champ " until he beat Geale, and the IBO doesn't count for ****.

So I can only see 4 defenses.....

Rubio
Murray
Monroe Jnr
Lemieux

How can you possibly could interim titles ?

Interim titles that did not even exist when Hopkins ruled 160 ?

[NearHypnos]

None of those guys I mentioned lost to Alcine who was A HUGE under dog. Or was KTFO by Ricky Martin Rubio... Ggg fans LOVE to hype up those tomato cans.

U NEVER even knew who Pepe Lemuix was until he fought GGG. And now you have him in the boxing HOFame... Dont worry his limited skills will give him a few more losses to make ggg GREAT win turn back into a pumpkin.

I feel like you didn't get the point... But you think you did and are actually making my point... How bizarre.

Saying Lemi is better than them isn't meant to be a good thing. You know that, right? Basically I'm saying don't bring lesser fighters than Lemieux into the mix to prove your point...


What's with the Ricky Martin Rubio comment? He's (MAR) not exactly good looking, g ay, or Pueto Rican (or whatever Ricky Martin is)... I mean you obviously know his name (though if *you* didn't know about Lemieux before GGG then I could see the lack of knowledge).

Anyhow, anyone who mildly keeps up with boxing knew who Lemieux was. Dude was getting a lot of hype and if you've seen the Bute or Pascal cards I'm sure you'd have heard of him (dont remember if he was on any of those cards but I'm implying knowlede of some of the guys on the up and up in canada..aka canadian boxing scene i guess).


What have the afformentioned guys you mentioned done to prove they are better than GGG's opponents (yes... We can't even compare them to GGG because they've done all of jack s hit lol)

No knock on the Charlo brothers, Andrade, or Jacobs as I've always been huge believers in them and their talent/skills. I'm a huge Jacobs fan and he has a nice win over Quillin...I'm a fan of the Charlo brothers, and I can even admit Andrade is the goods (he has fallen out of favor with me due to his seemingly awful way of managing his career) and Lara though I respect his craft has always been kind of disappointing. Maybe I (and most) expected more of him. With his skill, good pop, coming from the southpaw stance, AND a good chin he should be a fairly dominant 154lber but he just either doesn't have the heart of a prize fighter or doesn't understand professional boxing and it's scoring system. If he would just let his hands go....


Got off topic a bit and I don't remember what I was saying anymore but you have to relax, dude. Boxing would be more fun if you realized you could like GGG AND your other fighters. GGG can only fight who exists in his weight class. We can't fabricate a 160 Hopkins, Hagler, etc just to appease you.

[Shadoww702]

I feel like you didn't get the point... But you think you did and are actually making my point... How bizarre.

Saying Lemi is better than them isn't meant to be a good thing. You know that, right? Basically I'm saying don't bring lesser fighters than Lemieux into the mix to prove your point...


What's with the Ricky Martin Rubio comment? He's (MAR) not exactly good looking, g ay, or Pueto Rican (or whatever Ricky Martin is)... I mean you obviously know his name (though if *you* didn't know about Lemieux before GGG then I could see the lack of knowledge).

Anyhow, anyone who mildly keeps up with boxing knew who Lemieux was. Dude was getting a lot of hype and if you've seen the Bute or Pascal cards I'm sure you'd have heard of him (dont remember if he was on any of those cards but I'm implying knowlede of some of the guys on the up and up in canada..aka canadian boxing scene i guess).


What have the afformentioned guys you mentioned done to prove they are better than GGG's opponents (yes... We can't even compare them to GGG because they've done all of jack s hit lol)

No knock on the Charlo brothers, Andrade, or Jacobs as I've always been huge believers in them and their talent/skills. I'm a huge Jacobs fan and he has a nice win over Quillin...I'm a fan of the Charlo brothers, and I can even admit Andrade is the goods (he has fallen out of favor with me due to his seemingly awful way of managing his career) and Lara though I respect his craft has always been kind of disappointing. Maybe I (and most) expected more of him. With his skill, good pop, coming from the southpaw stance, AND a good chin he should be a fairly dominant 154lber but he just either doesn't have the heart of a prize fighter or doesn't understand professional boxing and it's scoring system. If he would just let his hands go....


Got off topic a bit and I don't remember what I was saying anymore but you have to relax, dude. Boxing would be more fun if you realized you could like GGG AND your other fighters. GGG can only fight who exists in his weight class. We can't fabricate a 160 Hopkins, Hagler, etc just to appease you.

I never heard of him before the GGG fight and a lot of the hype almost got me to buy the PPV fight.... Until I went to put a lil $$$ on GGG and saw he was a 18 to 1 favorite. Then I watched some of his fights and knew he was going to be a human punching bag. I blame most of me not knowing who he was more on not having an amatuer career more than anything. I tend to watch those fights more than anything.

I know GGG is real but i just can't stand his media ho trainer and promotor as well as most of his fans. They ALWAYS have to talk sht about everyone else. Fk there BURYING Ward for fighting Sullivan???? U seem to know boxing and Sullivan is NO JOKE!!! Ward better not come in the ring rusty or have an off-day against him...

[Mr. Philadel]

The fights where he was the regular WBA title holder don't count, how can you have 2 world champions for the same org?

Opponent level is everything, Wins don't mean **** if they're against nobodies.

The point that Isaac Clarke made earlier is valid.

You cannot count " interim champ " defenses.

Golovkin did not become the WBA " champ " until he beat Geale, and the IBO doesn't count for ****.

So I can only see 4 defenses.....

Rubio
Murray
Monroe Jnr
Lemieux

How can you possibly could interim titles ?

Interim titles that did not even exist when Hopkins ruled 160 ?

[aboutfkntime]

Fk me..... did that kill this thread ?

Isaac Clark..... you a baaaaad boy

So, what..... no defenders ?


K, the situation stands, until corrected.

Golovkin has 4 defences.....

Rubio
Murray
Monroe Jnr
Lemieux


You cannot possibly count interim " title " defences, because Golovkin was not the real WBA champ..... Geale was.

A couple of years back, seriously not long ago at all, folks were laughing at the WBA for calling their #1 contender a "champ", just so that they could hustle another sanctioning fee from that division..... and the WBA have not only acknowledged the issue, they have corrected it......

..... and yet now, you guys are going to happily award Golovkin title defences for that ****?

By all accounts, Wade will be Golovkin's 5th defence.

[aboutfkntime]

On the other thread..... " Worst Boxing Org/Sanctioning Body of 2015? "..... users voted the WBA the WORST of the 4 (4+1) sanctioning bodies for 2015.

And they voted that way, for this reason..... " too many champs ".

And now..... you guys are going to award " title " defences for that **** ?

Really ?

[Mikhnienko]

Fk me..... did that kill this thread ?

Isaac Clark..... you a baaaaad boy

So, what..... no defenders ?


K, the situation stands, until corrected.

Golovkin has 4 defences.....

Rubio
Murray
Monroe Jnr
Lemieux


You cannot possibly count interim " title " defences, because Golovkin was not the real WBA champ..... Geale was.

A couple of years back, seriously not long ago at all, folks were laughing at the WBA for calling their #1 contender a "champ", just so that they could hustle another sanctioning fee from that division..... and the WBA have not only acknowledged the issue, they have corrected it......

..... and yet now, you guys are going to happily award Golovkin title defences for that ****?

By all accounts, Wade will be Golovkin's 5th defence.

FYI Golovkin wasn't interim Champ but WBA Regular Champ because Sturm apparently paid the WBA 350K to give him Super Champ status (according to promoter Ahmet Oner who was working with him at that time) ducking him for almost 3 years.