It's been a couple of months now. Can we be honest?

[Combat Talk Radio]

Manny-Pac was more disappointing because people expected action, at least from Manny.

I've always been against May/Pac getting made and predicted a boring fight. But ******, idiotic fans kept demanding it. And now they're complaining. As if the previous boring running/clinching fests were not enough. It was basically asking to get ripped off. How can you reward such boring guy with $200 million? It's crazy!

Again, I don't understand this.

Mayweather/Hatton. Mayweather adjusted strategy midstream and after he got tagged with a really good shot, proceeded to destroy Hatton. This was NOT a "running" or "clinch fest" fight. This was Mayweather letting Hatton gas himself out and then schooling him.

Mayweather/Marquez. Mayweather was the aggressor all night long. He had Marquez backing up constantly, and Marquez couldn't barely hit him.

Mayweather/Cotto. Mayweather was right in front of Cotto all night long. In my eyes he fought Manny the exact same way minus punch output.

People expected action because they got fooled by both sides. Anyone who expected Floyd to throw flurries was fooling themselves. Anyone who expected Manny not to be timid after getting put to sleep by Marquez was fooling themselves. Manny was afraid of getting caught by Floyd's signature punch, Floyd was looking for Manny to jump in so he could catch him. They both played cat/mouse all night. That's why Floyd did little but jab, he was trying to get Manny to make a mistake.

No matter what, it's blasphemy to say that MayPac was less exciting than any of Grabomir's recent fights. Or Wilder's fights. Hell, Wilder's had back-to-back dullards since becoming champion.

[daggum]

i think fury-klitchko was exciting but i recently underwent a lobotomy

[bojangles1987]

Does anyone actually think it was a good fight? Everyone said it ****** right after it happened.

[MrRolltide91]

Again, I don't understand this.

Mayweather/Hatton. Mayweather adjusted strategy midstream and after he got tagged with a really good shot, proceeded to destroy Hatton. This was NOT a "running" or "clinch fest" fight. This was Mayweather letting Hatton gas himself out and then schooling him.

Mayweather/Marquez. Mayweather was the aggressor all night long. He had Marquez backing up constantly, and Marquez couldn't barely hit him.

Mayweather/Cotto. Mayweather was right in front of Cotto all night long. In my eyes he fought Manny the exact same way minus punch output.

People expected action because they got fooled by both sides. Anyone who expected Floyd to throw flurries was fooling themselves. Anyone who expected Manny not to be timid after getting put to sleep by Marquez was fooling themselves. Manny was afraid of getting caught by Floyd's signature punch, Floyd was looking for Manny to jump in so he could catch him. They both played cat/mouse all night. That's why Floyd did little but jab, he was trying to get Manny to make a mistake.

No matter what, it's blasphemy to say that MayPac was less exciting than any of Grabomir's recent fights. Or Wilder's fights. Hell, Wilder's had back-to-back dullards since becoming champion.

Good points.


Both were showing respect too each other.


Neither one didn't want to make a mistake.

[Fury4daWIN]

Again, I don't understand this.

Mayweather/Hatton. Mayweather adjusted strategy midstream and after he got tagged with a really good shot, proceeded to destroy Hatton. This was NOT a "running" or "clinch fest" fight. This was Mayweather letting Hatton gas himself out and then schooling him.

Mayweather/Marquez. Mayweather was the aggressor all night long. He had Marquez backing up constantly, and Marquez couldn't barely hit him.

Mayweather/Cotto. Mayweather was right in front of Cotto all night long. In my eyes he fought Manny the exact same way minus punch output.

People expected action because they got fooled by both sides. Anyone who expected Floyd to throw flurries was fooling themselves. Anyone who expected Manny not to be timid after getting put to sleep by Marquez was fooling themselves. Manny was afraid of getting caught by Floyd's signature punch, Floyd was looking for Manny to jump in so he could catch him. They both played cat/mouse all night. That's why Floyd did little but jab, he was trying to get Manny to make a mistake.

No matter what, it's blasphemy to say that MayPac was less exciting than any of Grabomir's recent fights. Or Wilder's fights. Hell, Wilder's had back-to-back dullards since becoming champion.

You think Wilder's been in boring fights? His last three have been barnburners.

[Combat Talk Radio]

You think Wilder's been in boring fights? His last three have been barnburners.

No, no they have not.

Before he went the distance with Stiverne Wilder hadn't even gone past the 6th round and he was explicitly a come-forward fighter. After Stiverne, he's been a stay-back fighter, tentative. Yes he's got boxing skill, but he's clumsy, off balance at times, leans his head back (which is a no no), and gets staggered too often to be comfortable. It's shades of Hamed all over again.

I don't call going 9 with Eric Molina a "barn burner". I don't call almost going the distance with Duhaupas a "barn burner", either. And Szpilka was taking Wilder's power shot all night long and didn't get knocked down until he ran into it.

I'd say Kelvin Price, but he was really a bum that didn't belong in that ring in the first place.

I'd say Malik Scott, but I firmly believe he either took a dive or was a setup fight, ala Said Lawal against Hamed.

The best fight I've seen Wilder in was against Stiverne. A dehydrated Stiverne, mind you. Thus why I want to see him in there with someone like David Haye.

[JJRod]

Fury-Klitschko was more boring than Mayweather-Pac. The only reason people liked this fight is because Fury won. If Pacquiao had won and the fight went the same way people would not be calling it boring. I understand Fury made history but that was one of the worse fights of last year.That fight was only slightly better than Rigodeaux-Fransisco. That fight was horrible. Post a highlight video of the fight if you think I'm wrong.

I said it after the fight was over. Klitschko gave away that fight, rather than Fury taking it and winning the fight.
Sad, boring and frustrating as h*ll to watch. Kept screaming at the TV.

[_original_]

Wlad and Manny fought like the cuckold pair of betas they are, dudes showed up with no passion.

[Rich2123]

I think a part of the reason so many people were so down on Mayweather/Pac-Man is that at least half the people who watched knew next to nothing about boxing. They had heard the hype about the 2 best fighters of their generation fighting and thought they were going to see some brutal fight right out of a Rocky film.

They saw a great defensive boxer do what he does best. But they didn't get what they wanted. Causals don't want to learn more about the sport, they want to be entertained, and they weren't entertained by a defensive masterclass.

Not nearly as many people (in America, at least) watched Klitchcko/Fury, and just about everyone who did called it a dreadful fight. I wasn't bored when I watched it (like I wasn't bored during May-Pac) but that was only because of how important the event was. I'd never watch either fight again without falling asleep.

[LoadedWraps]

Wasn't that bored during the fight live as Fury was actually winning. That was exciting in and of itself

Boring or not, it was the greatest win in a long time in boxing. Ive seen posts hyping up Wilder as the HW champ on the basis that Fury-Wlad was boring... but its just an example of NSB humour I suppose.

The ultimately irony here though, a supposedly extremely boring fight has brought major excitement back to the HW division.