"Slick Boxer" The Most Abused and Misused Term in Boxing
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I agree, but slick? I don't think so. Maybe we need to refine the definition. I don't think too many fans would call "Manos de Piedra" slick.Comment
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Had this discussion plenty but I was in the minority back then, with the gifs sicko posted and The Gambler's post, I see that I'm not alone in that line of thinking. It's more of, when you see it your left saying 'that was slick'.Comment
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No argument from me here. I described Duran's skill as under-appreciated earlier. He was tremendously skilled, but in a subtle way. Most fans would look at him and not appreciate his talents, because it wasn't as flashy as, well...the slick fighters. Lol Duran had a distinctive way of violently swinging his upper body around while avoiding a counter. He often impressed me with that move. Canelo does something similar. (Another guy who has some slickness to his game but I don't consider a slick fighter.)Definitely agree that he doesn't fall into the category of a "slick boxer". But I always considered him a fighter that has a lot of slickness in his game. He used a lot of roll and slip counters, a lot of feints and even while in your face he was very difficult to hit. He's widely considered as one of the better defensive fighters which is amazing considering his relentless style.Comment
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It is fooling someone who a professional at what they do and most likely knows going in the guy has some tricks. A pro who has worked hard knowing something is going to happen but still can't really do a thing about it.
Watching a guy break another fighter with their trickiness is how you know a dude is actually slick. To me it is one of the highest compliments to give a fighter, which is why it makes me sad when people misuse it and it getting mocked for it.Comment
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Log the **** off. You clearly don't know schit.While I agree 100% on Pernell and Toney, bro, I can't agree on Duran. Although Roberto's skill is under-appreciated, he was known primarily as a brawler. Young Ali was slick; Camacho was slick; "Sugar" Ray Leonard was slick. I can think of many who fit that description, but not Duran.Comment
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I getcha. I've always regarded slick fighters as being typically fast of hand and feet. Not a necessary requirement, but a common attribute. They're typically hard to hit, with crazy reflexes. They tend to be defensively inclined, although not always so. I consider a slick fighter to be someone that has all this on display at all times, not just in spots. Slickness isn't just a part of their game, it is their game.Comment
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Haha That's pretty funny. Did you just make that up?
I watched Duran fight live on TV since the mid-to-late seventies. Saw all his major fights from that point on, and also some lesser encounters. Duran was always regarded as a brawler by fans, writers and announcers alike. The first Leonard fight is still described as "Ray playing matador to Duran's bull."
Tyson is another guy whose skill is under-appreciated. Everyone seems to think he was just this savage who would knock people out the moment he landed clean. In the early days, especially, Tyson had fantastic head movement and his pivoting was a thing to behold.Comment
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I read an interview with former welterweight champ Carlos Palomino years ago. He fought Duran in one of Roberto's first welterweight fights. Carlos said he was amazed at Duran's speed, skill and movement, that he was under the impression Roberto was just this brawler.It is fooling someone who a professional at what they do and most likely knows going in the guy has some tricks. A pro who has worked hard knowing something is going to happen but still can't really do a thing about it.
Watching a guy break another fighter with their trickiness is how you know a dude is actually slick. To me it is one of the highest compliments to give a fighter, which is why it makes me sad when people misuse it and it getting mocked for it.Comment
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