WTF ? ? ? USADA does not conduct RANDOM drug testing?

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  • ADP02
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    #121
    Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
    8 years later...still can't understand the meaning of random
    Its OK, its never too late. You can find out in year #9.

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    • ADP02
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      #122
      Originally posted by Reloaded
      If the fighters dont know when they are coming to test them , thats random for the fighters and works fine .

      Actually that is not entirely true.

      Floyd, being the A side, controls USADA. Floyd sets the start date not USADA. The end date is also known. So Rath has a valid point in that it is nowhere close to being random testing.

      Plus, if you noticed, there are patterns of how USADA has been collecting its samples. For example, someone like Floyd can gather that the likely hood of blood testing close to the fight date is nearly nil, going by ALL his previous fights.

      Also, there have been at least 2 times where Floyd was allowed to delay testing by 5+ hours.

      Also, someone like FLoyd gets to use an IV that was considered a prohibited method according to WADA/USADA but that didn't stop Floyd. Floyd was allowed to request for it after the fact and way after the fight.

      So its the opposite of what some of you have called this type of testing. Those fancy words are a smoke screen. Its actually inferior type of testing.

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      • Reloaded
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        #123
        Originally posted by ADP02
        Actually that is not entirely true.

        Floyd, being the A side, controls USADA. Floyd sets the start date not USADA. The end date is also known. So Rath has a valid point in that it is nowhere close to being random testing.

        Plus, if you noticed, there are patterns of how USADA has been collecting its samples. For example, someone like Floyd can gather that the likely hood of blood testing close to the fight date is nearly nil, going by ALL his previous fights.

        Also, there have been at least 2 times where Floyd was allowed to delay testing by 5+ hours.

        Also, someone like FLoyd gets to use an IV that was considered a prohibited method according to WADA/USADA but that didn't stop Floyd. Floyd was allowed to request for it after the fact and way after the fight.

        So its the opposite of what some of you have called this type of testing. Those fancy words are a smoke screen. Its actually inferior type of testing.
        Im not that interested in your theorys to tell you the truth , you sound like youre trying to convince yourself , Fights over Floyd won and retired boxing moves on .

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          #124
          Originally posted by Reloaded
          Im not that interested in your theorys to tell you the truth , you sound like youre trying to convince yourself , Fights over Floyd won and retired boxing moves on .
          When someone says what you say that's code for "You are right and I was wrong". Well, at least you know that you were wrong.

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            #125
            Originally posted by ADP02
            When someone says what you say that's code for "You are right and I was wrong". Well, at least you know that you were wrong.
            Whatever you think buddy bottom line is Floyd won you lost it dont go further than that and its time to move on , are you not sick to death of crying its getting on to a year now ?

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            • Rath
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              #126
              Originally posted by considerthis
              I don't see what your point is. You're approaching this like floyd fans trashed nsac testing in favor of usada...and in the end usada testing was the same as the standard testing used by nsac. That's clearly not the case. You're spinning it as if it's not random in the sense the fighters know when the tests are coming, when in fact it's not random in the sense that they don't randomly decide when to do the tests. If it's still random from the fighters perspective, then what's the difference?
              USADA we don't conduct random drug test.

              look how genius floyd fan spins it.

              fighters know when USADA is coming because they call the fighters in advance when will they come.

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              • Rath
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                #127
                Originally posted by Reloaded
                Whatever you think buddy bottom line is Floyd won you lost it dont go further than that and its time to move on , are you not sick to death of crying its getting on to a year now ?
                not according to final score card.

                red corner won and that was not floyd's corner

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Rath
                  avoid testing?

                  Pac said let the commission do their job

                  Floyd and his genius fans - no we want better testing we want Olympic style random drug test.

                  avoid testing

                  Pac - i want VADA?

                  Floyd and his genius fans - no no no only USADA do random olympic style drug test

                  Pac - but but but USADA is expensive

                  Floyd and his genius fans - yeah but only USADA do random olympic style drug test. don't be cheap Pac this is a billion dollar fight.

                  Pac ok - let's do VADA and USADA together

                  ggenius floyd fans - it will be expensive

                  Floyd - pays USADA 150,000 LOL

                  Pacfans - Floyd doing IV it's cheating

                  genius Floyd fans - no no no NSAC said he did not do anything wrong (remember Pac said let the commission do their job) NSAC don't know anything about drug testing they don't do random olympic style drug testing.

                  avoid testing?

                  Pac - i want 14 days cut off blood taken too close to the fight makes me weak

                  Floyd and his genius fans - how can you call it random if it has a cut off? cut that BS of lame excuse blood test make you weak.

                  Floyd and his genius fans - Floyd dehydrated because of blood test LOL.

                  Floyd vs Mosley - test ended up 18 days before the fight. (mosley a known and admitted PED cheat)

                  Pacfans - why Pac was asking for just 14 days?

                  Genius floyd fans - even if ended 18 days before it is still random because fighter don't know if the test ended or not

                  then rath's expose'

                  USADA don't conduct random blood test

                  genius floyd fans spin and deflection:

                  is this news?

                  Pac lost move on and let it go

                  stop making ****** threads

                  but it is still random LOL

                  ummmmm ahhhhhhhh yeah they don't do random but but but what they were doing is better than random LOL

                  genius floyd fans and their logic. AMAZING
                  no genius floyd fans want to reply to this?

                  you quitting on me now?

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                  • ADP02
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Reloaded
                    Whatever you think buddy bottom line is Floyd won you lost it dont go further than that and its time to move on , are you not sick to death of crying its getting on to a year now ?
                    More code from Reloaded meaning "I, Reloaded, am wrong and need to deflect this topic to something else".

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                    • al-Xander
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                      #130
                      Calling tests within a set period random is ****** in itself. How can you call it random when you know you will be tested anytime within a set period? Random testing is year round. End of story.

                      There's a reason why Mayweather usually announces his fights late. It means he's cycling the peds.

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