Comments Thread For: Canelo is Proud of His Resume, Says Golovkin Fight Will Happen

[REYESdelBOXEO]

CANELO at only 25 has earned his stripes the hard way , the young phenom is a gifted fighter who takes on the best biggest names to dare to be great, that's why his PPV Events are big time. CANELO is the new #1 P4P King of boxing. CANELO'S last PPV generated $70 million dollars. CANELO is the RING Magazine & Lineal WBC Diamond Belt Champion. CANELO is a far superior fighter then Golovchicken and is the clear A-Side and Champion, so saying 155 lbs or what ever weight he pushes for as well as 90/10 % split is deserved if you know boxing and are into factual evidence to back up personal & public opinion.
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Golovchicken is 34 has the resume of a prospect and is still being protected , he has never done anything to take a risk and fight top fighters only bums for his big drama show flop PPV events and bum slaying circus sideshow that proves nothing to the boxing world. Golovchickens' last PPV generated a total of only $7 million dollars and was one of the worst PPV events ever. Golovchicken is the "Interim Champion". He called out everyone from 154 - 168 pounds and acts like a Diva to not get the big fights made, his career has plateaued and he is getting old in boxing years. He is digging his own grave, but oh we'll it's what he chose. Team Lil g are running scared of CANELO , Lara, Ward, Degeale, Jacobs and Zurdo all wanting to take him out from 154-168 , Golovchicken is shook!

[Raonic]

Bull****, don't be fkn ridiculous.

What sort of clown would argue that being hypocritical is not wrong ?

It was wrong for Golovkin to talk utter **** for THREE FKN YEARS, knowing full well that he had no intention whatsoever of backing up those wild claims.

Because of those wild claims, it was wrong for Golovkin to pull that b1tch-move with Ward.

Because of those wild claims, It was wrong for Golovkin to duck Lara, and then state that the decision to fight Willie Monroe instead of Lara was made because "Monroe is a bigger draw".

Because of those wild claims, it was wrong for Golovkin to totally refuse to negotiate with Canelo, and then attempt to justify that refusal by insinuating that he is concerned about the integrity of boxing..... because neither of those guys give a flying fat fcuk about the integrity of boxing, Golovkin is ONLY taking that position because it benefits him.

It is wrong for Golovkin to **** on his fans, and think they will forget.

It is wrong of you to blindly support that protected fighter, just because you like him

I say grow up, and develop some pride..... YOU KNOW that Golovkin doesn't give a fat rat's ass about the integrity of boxing, and yet you are more than happy to support him as he spins that bull**** to the fans, simply because it benefits him.

You are either ****** or dishonest.

This is how genuine boxing fans see the situation......
..... oh, and the very best fighter on the planet agree's with them.

Doing something hypocritical makes you a hypocrite. The idea of being hypocrite is wrong but that doesn't make all your actions wrong.

I can run a red light and advocate for people not to run red lights. That is being hypocritical. Being hypocritical is wrong. Me running a red light is wrong. Am I suddenly wrong for advocating people shouldn't run a red light because I was a hypocrite and ran a red light myself?

[Raonic]

Raonic, the only thing more ridiculous than you attempting to convince me that being a hypocrite is not wrong..... is kafkod, attempting to convince me that Mr 97k doesn't need a name opponent

Maybe if you understood English properly you wouldn't have kept this conversation going.

[aboutfkntime]

Sure, but can we stop pretending like 150k, against unknown limited Lemieux, in a first PPV event, as a Kazakh who can't speak english very well, is a huge flop of biblical proportions. Its not a huge huge success, but it really isn't that bad.

I bet Canelo-Lemiuex would do around 300k buys, its not going to be a triumph. So whilst Canelo is clearly the more popular fighter, theres not a huge gap, not nearly as big as the typical anti-GGG posters like to spew out.

That's probably true, it may not compare poorly to other PPV debuts at all.

But any fighter with PPV aspirations needs to match up with name opponents, and as most top trainers/fighters and even managers have stated, the only knock on Golovkin is that he hasn't fought anyone yet.

Demanding 155 against Golovkin is unreasonable unless the purse split is close to even

But he totally refused to negotiate on the weight.

That is why the fight did not happen.

The WBC ordered the Cotto/Canelo winner to face Golovkin.

Then the WBC u-turned, and allowed a voluntary, because Team Golovkin were not willing to negotiate on the weight.

[aboutfkntime]

Doing something hypocritical makes you a hypocrite. The idea of being hypocrite is wrong but that doesn't make all your actions wrong.

I can run a red light and advocate for people not to run red lights. That is being hypocritical. Being hypocritical is wrong. Me running a red light is wrong. Am I suddenly wrong for advocating people shouldn't run a red light because I was a hypocrite and ran a red light myself?

I think that being hypocritical is WRONG.

Nobody likes a two-faced b1tch.

Let's agree to disagree on that.

I think being blinded by bias is also wrong.

[Raonic]

I think that being hypocritical is WRONG.

Nobody likes a two-faced b1tch.

Let's agree to disagree on that.

I think being blinded by bias is also wrong.

I'm not disagreeing with you there, like at all.

I'm just saying that that doesn't suddenly make GGG wrong for rejecting a 155 CW. It makes him a hypocrite and that is wrong but what he did regarding rejecting the weight isn't wrong itself (if you believe CWs shouldn't exist).

You didn't answer my question. Am I wrong for advocating people not to run red lights because I am a hypocrite? It's a simple question. Or if I drink and drive but advocate people not to do it, I am a hypocrite. Am I still wrong to tell people they shouldn't drive and drink? Should I advocate people to drink and drive instead just so I wouldn't be a hypocrite and would I be "right" in telling people to do that because I'm not a hypocrite?

It's basic math here.

[aboutfkntime]

I'm not disagreeing with you there, like at all.

I'm just saying that that doesn't suddenly make GGG wrong for rejecting a 155 CW. It makes him a hypocrite and that is wrong but what he did regarding rejecting the weight isn't wrong itself (if you believe CWs shouldn't exist).

You didn't answer my question. Am I wrong for advocating people not to run red lights because I am a hypocrite? It's a simple question. Or if I drink and drive but advocate people not to do it, I am a hypocrite. Am I still wrong to tell people they shouldn't drive and drink? Should I advocate people to drink and drive instead just so I wouldn't be a hypocrite and would I be "right" in telling people to do that because I'm not a hypocrite?

It's basic math here.

In the scenario above..... yes, it would be wrong for you to take it upon yourself to give anyone advice on anything.

Nobody would listen to a hypocrite, let alone a drunken hypocrite...... LET ALONE, a drunken hypocrite who runs red lights.

You would be called a liar, and be accused of making hollow statements..... just like Golovkin is.

GGG is wrong for being a hypocrite, and for being a liar who makes hollow promises.

And you are wrong for being nothing other than a protectionist fanboy.

Once again, you are completely ignoring the 3 years of broken promises..... once again, you are completely ignoring the blatant weight-manipulation attempt on Ward..... and once again, you are completely ignoring the fact that Team Hypekin are desperate for a name opponent because lil'G-string could write his resume on the back of a postage stamp.....

..... and, I know exactly why you are ignoring those relevant factors

Let me give you an example..... I want my boy Ward, to fight Kovalev.

And I want that fight for the following reasons.....

1) Kovalev is likely the best LHW on the planet right now
2) I know that Ward can beat him

And yet, rather than watch Golovkin raise his profile by fighting somebody with a pulse..... you would rather sit here all day defending him for ducking Ward/Lara/Canelo.


This is why I have classified you as a protectionist fanboy.....


1) you are proudly supporting a guy who you admit is a HYPOCRITE

2) you admit that Golovkin either ducked Ward by demanding a catchweight that he knows Ward cannot make, or..... he tried to gain an unfair ADVANTAGE on the scales

3) YOU KNOW, that when Golovkin selected Willie Monroe Jnr over Erislandy Lara, and then stated that decision was made because Monroe is a bigger draw..... that he was LYING through his ass

So I gotta ask myself, why would a supposed genuine boxing fan possibly support a LYING, MANIPULATING, HYPOCRITE, who has never fought a top opponent?

Oh right, you got that creepy man-love thing going on.


Once again..... this is how most genuine boxing fans, guys who are not "heavily invested" like you pacfans/golovtards, look at the situation.

BTW, the guy quoted in this link, is the best fighter in the world.

[Raonic]

In the scenario above..... yes, it would be wrong for you to take it upon yourself to give anyone advice on anything.

Nobody would listen to a hypocrite, let alone a drunken hypocrite...... LET ALONE, a drunken hypocrite who runs red lights.

You would be called a liar, and be accused of making hollow statements..... just like Golovkin is.

GGG is wrong for being a hypocrite, and for being a liar who makes hollow promises.

And you are wrong for being nothing other than a protectionist fanboy.

Once again, you are completely ignoring the 3 years of broken promises..... once again, you are completely ignoring the blatant weight-manipulation attempt on Ward..... and once again, you are completely ignoring the fact that Team Hypekin are desperate for a name opponent because lil'G-string could write his resume on the back of a postage stamp.....

..... and, I know exactly why you are ignoring those relevant factors

Let me give you an example..... I want my boy Ward, to fight Kovalev.

And I want that fight for the following reasons.....

1) Kovalev is likely the best LHW on the planet right now
2) I know that Ward can beat him

And yet, rather than watch Golovkin raise his profile by fighting somebody with a pulse..... you would rather sit here all day defending him for ducking Ward/Lara/Canelo.


This is why I have classified you as a protectionist fanboy.....


1) you are proudly supporting a guy who you admit is a HYPOCRITE

2) you admit that Golovkin either ducked Ward by demanding a catchweight that he knows Ward cannot make, or..... he tried to gain an unfair ADVANTAGE on the scales

3) YOU KNOW, that when Golovkin selected Willie Monroe Jnr over Erislandy Lara, and then stated that decision was made because Monroe is a bigger draw..... that he was LYING through his ass

So I gotta ask myself, why would a supposed genuine boxing fan possibly support a LYING, MANIPULATING, HYPOCRITE, who has never fought a top opponent?

Oh right, you got that creepy man-love thing going on.


Once again..... this is how most genuine boxing fans, guys who are not "heavily invested" like you pacfans/golovtards, look at the situation.

BTW, the guy quoted in this link, is the best fighter in the world.

You're missing the point very badly.

Is it wrong to be hypocritical? Yes.
Is it wrong to drink and drive? Yes
Is it wrong to tell people not to drink and drive? No because it's the right thing to do, regardless of whether it's hypocritical or not.

The idea of being hypocritical is WRONG, but that doesn't mean the action itself (telling people not to drink and drive) is wrong.

It's the same idea with GGG. IF you don't think CWs should exist, there's 3 simple answers.

Was he hypocritical? Yes and he's wrong for being a hypocrite.
Was he wrong to demand 164? Yes, he was.
Is he wrong to ask for 160? It is hypocritical but if you believe that CWs shouldn't exist, then what he did was still right.

Being a liar and a hypocrite doesn't automatically makes whatever they do wrong. A criminal is a bad person but that doesn't mean they are automatically wrong for each and every single action they commit. Each action has it's own merit. Doing something wrong doesn't mean whatever else you do is wrong. THAT'S THE POINT.

I don't care about the other stuff about GGG right now. That's not what the discussion is about. It's about the weight. But if you really want to know, I blatantly called him out for saying that Monroe is a draw and have called his team out for many lies.

[Irony123]

When it makes you a hypocrite.... yes !

in what way does it make him a hypocrite? is he a hypocrite because he wanted a big money fight and was willing to sacrifice weight (i.e. Floyd/froch/jcc) for one fighter and not the other? if so then look at every top boxer around you and tell me which one of these guys hasn't been a hypocrite when it comes to demanding advantages vs. some fighters while willing to forgo advantages for other fighters.

good luck.

[aboutfkntime]

You're missing the point very badly.

Is it wrong to be hypocritical? Yes.
Is it wrong to drink and drive? Yes
Is it wrong to tell people not to drink and drive? No because it's the right thing to do, regardless of whether it's hypocritical or not.

The idea of being hypocritical is WRONG, but that doesn't mean the action itself (telling people not to drink and drive) is wrong.

It's the same idea with GGG. IF you don't think CWs should exist, there's 3 simple answers.

Was he hypocritical? Yes and he's wrong for being a hypocrite.
Was he wrong to demand 164? Yes, he was.
Is he wrong to ask for 160? It is hypocritical but if you believe that CWs shouldn't exist, then what he did was still right.

Being a liar and a hypocrite doesn't automatically makes whatever they do wrong. A criminal is a bad person but that doesn't mean they are automatically wrong for each and every single action they commit. Each action has it's own merit. Doing something wrong doesn't mean whatever else you do is wrong. THAT'S THE POINT.

I don't care about the other stuff about GGG right now. That's not what the discussion is about. It's about the weight. But if you really want to know, I blatantly called him out for saying that Monroe is a draw and have called his team out for many lies.

What a load of fkn waffle

you are kafkod 2.0

Lame excuses, and waffle, do not make hypocrisy acceptable kid.

So, you support a LYING, MANIPULATING, HYPOCRITE, good for you