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  • Shadoww702
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    #101
    Vegas BETTING odds

    Canelo vs. Khan. 3:1

    GGG vs. Wade at LEAST 18:1

    Wade isn't even a Top 10 MW! But he da mandatory doe! IBF rankings 1. Gran Turino. 2. No one 3. Wade.

    The IBF has RANKED dead ppl before FYI. For the right amount of $$$ they'll rank anyone...

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    • hitking
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      #102
      Originally posted by kafkod
      Golovkin didn't try to dictate anything to Ward.

      Ward tried to get him to sign a contract to fight at 168 some time down the line after Andre had finished his tune-ups. Loeffler turned it down.

      GGG and Ward weren't even in the same division, so how can it be the same as what Canelo is doing now?

      I guess you don't give a fuck about weight divisions either eh?
      At the elite level of the sport that Ward and GGG currently find themselves, no, I don't really care about weight divisions. The fact is, there's too many divisions and most of them lack multiple elite, or fringe elite talent. So in order to get the superfights that match elites, there's gonna be weight jumping. The best two fighters of the last era, Floyd and Manny. Floyd won titles in 5 divisions, Manny in 8. The best fighter of the era prior to that, Roy Jones won titles in 4 divisions. Spanning middleweight to heavyweight. Sweet Pea won titles in 4 divisions and the list goes on and on. So yeah, if we're gonna run around calling GGG an elite fighter or even a great fighter. He needs to be held to the standards that past greats were held to. I don't see anything wrong with that. Especially since he's clearly the top guy in his division. And the other top guys in that division don't wanna fight him. And even if they did, they suck anyway.

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      • HeroBando
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        #103
        Originally posted by hitking
        At the elite level of the sport that Ward and GGG currently find themselves, no, I don't really care about weight divisions. The fact is, there's too many divisions and most of them lack multiple elite, or fringe elite talent. So in order to get the superfights that match elites, there's gonna be weight jumping. The best two fighters of the last era, Floyd and Manny. Floyd won titles in 5 divisions, Manny in 8. The best fighter of the era prior to that, Roy Jones won titles in 4 divisions. Spanning middleweight to heavyweight. Sweet Pea won titles in 4 divisions and the list goes on and on. So yeah, if we're gonna run around calling GGG an elite fighter or even a great fighter. He needs to be held to the standards that past greats were held to. I don't see anything wrong with that. Especially since he's clearly the top guy in his division. And the other top guys in that division don't wanna fight him. And even if they did, they suck anyway.
        Ward cares about weight divisions. He needs 3 tuneups to be ready for #1 in his new division. "Body not ready" Alvarez cares obviously, he needs lowest possible CW to face his mando

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        • kafkod
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          #104
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
          You could at least try to keep it real


          We'd Fight Ward at 164, 50-50 Split.....
          Promoter Tom Loeffler of K2 Promotions, who handle IBO/WBA middleweight champion Gennady "GGG" Golovkin (33-0, 30 KOs), says a fight can certainly be worked out



          Andre Ward Must Go to 164 or No Fight.....
          Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas - Abel Sanchez, trainer of WBA/IBO middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin, has made it absolutely clear that he's not going to bud



          GGG would fight Ward on a 50-50 basis at 164.....
          http://www. boxing news 24 .com/2015/07/loeffler-ggg-would-fight-ward-on-a-50-50-basis-at-164/
          Why do you interpret that as Golovkin trying to dictate to Ward?

          You could just as easily interpret it as Ward trying to dictate to GGG about what division he should fight in, if that's the way your mind works.

          My interpretation is that GGG got an offer from Ward and his team countered it with an offer of their own.

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          • artfuL_
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            #105
            Just to think this guys resume was built off of beating down the lesser known bothers of Cotto and Hatton.

            Canelo has come a long way

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            • hitking
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              #106
              Originally posted by HeroBando
              Figures, refuses to address my points and goes off on a tangent. But thanks for making my argument for me, again. Floyd is one of the few guys that's bigger than the belts, and been dismissive of those (they just collect dust). Yet he loves posing with his belt collection, and pays the sanctioning fees to defend his 154 belts at 147 vs Maidana lol. So obviously belts matter, dummy
              I didn't go off on anything. I'm basically trying to understand your POV. Floyd-Chino I was a unification fight, which you called a cherry pick. Canelo was a unification. Ortiz was the defending WBC champ when Floyd fought him. Guerrero was a mandatory. Baldomir was basically the undisputed champ begore being unjustly stripped of a couple belts before fighting Floyd. DLH was a defending champ. Mosley was a defending champ. Even further back than that. Floyd fought Bruseles and Corley in eliminators to bevome Gatti's mandatory. Very similar to the way GGG fought Rubio to bevome the WBC mandatory. So I'm just trying to figure out why is it Floyd's belt quest were garbage and GGG's is a viewed more favorably by folks like yourself?

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              • kafkod
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                #107
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                Ward cares about weight divisions. He needs 3 tuneups to be ready for #1 in his new division. "Body not ready" Alvarez cares obviously, he needs lowest possible CW to face his mando
                B ... b ... but ... Ward and Canelo got better resumes than Lil g doe ...

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                • HeroBando
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by hitking
                  I didn't go off on anything. I'm basically trying to understand your POV. Floyd-Chino I was a unification fight, which you called a cherry pick. Canelo was a unification. Ortiz was the defending WBC champ when Floyd fought him. Guerrero was a mandatory. Baldomir was basically the undisputed champ begore being unjustly stripped of a couple belts before fighting Floyd. DLH was a defending champ. Mosley was a defending champ. Even further back than that. Floyd fought Bruseles and Corley in eliminators to bevome Gatti's mandatory. Very similar to the way GGG fought Rubio to bevome the WBC mandatory. So I'm just trying to figure out why is it Floyd's belt quest were garbage and GGG's is a viewed more favorably by folks like yourself?
                  Don't get me wrong, Floyds resume is way better than Gggs or Wards or any of these newcomers. It just falls way short of his TBE standards. Will that get you to stop crying now?

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                  • wlliam
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Shadoww702
                    Best MW right now.

                    #1 GGG
                    Canelo
                    Cotto
                    Lara if he moves up to MW
                    Jacobs
                    Quillin
                    Saunders
                    Eubank
                    Lee
                    Lemuix
                    Johnson
                    N dam
                    Soliman
                    Wade who Ggg is fighting.

                    Pound for Pound top 30 most have at around #25...
                    Amir Khan
                    Khan #25? then Algieri mustve been...26? Gtfoh with that fkn rubbish!!

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                    • aboutfkntime
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Xoahr
                      Why do you love Canelo taking you dry from behind when he's trying to impose a CW on his mandatory opponent for a world title fight when he's the lineal champion. When has that ever happened before?

                      Why should they allow this new rule, in Canelos favour, which has never been done before? Anyone defending this should be completely ashamed of themselves and realise they're such a fanboy they're not just taking it dry, they're begging for it dry.

                      Now, for a optional of voluntary fight, it makes sense. But a world title with the lineal champion against a mandatory? How ******ed do you have to be to not see how unfair, one-sided and plain ****** that is. Would you defend GGG holding a SMW belt at 161 if he's the A side against his mandatories? Don't be ridiculous - you're the ******est, most emotive and illogical hater I've come across here. Every post is just pure unfiltered idiocy.

                      Because the hype-job pulled that exact same **** on Andre Ward.

                      And don't wank on to me about titles kid..... if you had any integrity, or any true respect for the sport of boxing, you would rate fighters over titles...... and they were more than willing to disrespect Andre Ward by demanding a catchweight from him.

                      And what happened when they did ?

                      Did Team Bull**** demand that catchweight because a title was not at stake?..... NO !!..... they demanded a catchweight for this reason..... "because we are the a-side".

                      Well, guess who's the A-side now b1tch ?

                      GTFOH with your convenient double-standards.

                      #titledoe

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