Why do Floyd fans says the IV infusion was not illegal?

[RussB23]

The rule book doesn't say anything of the sort. I posted the ****ing rule book. IVs for re-hydration are not on the list of approved medications or injections.

There is good reason for this too. In weight classification sports using IVs to artificially increase the bodies ability to re-hydrate between the weigh-in and fight is cheating.

The limited time-frame between weigh-in and fight exists to limit the amount a fighter can re-hydrate.

Yea it doesnt matter how he takes the saline and vitamins, all that matters is that its not a banned substance(which it isnt), he was granted a TUE and notified usada prior and after the use of it. So tell me , what is the big issue with floyd using this IV?

[Lester Tutor]

Weather he used the IV to mask PEDs or to re-hydrate it was cheating..

so you're undecided? lol



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKogWz0y5KM&t=1m28s

[GTTofAK]

Yea it doesnt matter how he takes the saline and vitamins, all that matters is that its not a banned substance(which it isnt), he was granted a TUE and notified usada prior and after the use of it. So tell me , what is the big issue with floyd using this IV?

Yes it matters how you take it. There are banned substances and banned procedures. Oxygen is not a banned substance but if you oxygenate your blood and inject it back in, blood doping, that is cheating.

I'm sorry you are simply ignorant and ****** which is a bad combination.

[GTTofAK]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKogWz0y5KM&t=1m28s

You can keep posting that video all you want. I'm not ****ed in the head like you are. I dont have to worship the ground Roach walks on like you worship Froid. Roach is wrong, simple as that.

There is no way of looking at this that exonerates Froid. Either he was taking the IV to mask PED use or he was taking it to rehydrate. Both are cheating.

[Lester Tutor]

Yes it matters how you take it. There are banned substances and banned procedures. Oxygen is not a banned substance but if you oxygenate your blood and inject it back in, blood doping, that is cheating.

I'm sorry you are simply ignorant and ****** which is a bad combination.

''According to records provided by the Nevada Athletic Commisison, each man gave 11 urine and eight blood samples. Among the special analyses given to the samples were Carbon Isotope Ratio Mass Spectrometry (CIR/IRMS) testing as well as tests to detect usage of EPO and human growth hormone.

Mayweather gave urine on March 13, 18, 19 and 28, April 2, 10, 15, 21 and 27 and May 1 and 2. He gave blood samples on March 13, 18 and 28, April 2, 10, 15 and 21 and May 2.'' - Kevin Iole Yahoo Sports




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKogWz0y5KM&t=1m28s

[RussB23]

Yes it matters how you take it. There are banned substances and banned procedures. Oxygen is not a banned substance but if you oxygenate your blood and inject it back in, blood doping, that is cheating.

I'm sorry you are simply ignorant and ****** which is a bad combination.

No i think you are ignorant and trying to prove something that isnt true. Nothing done was illegal , floyd was granted the TUE. Everything was clarified and nothing against the rules was done. But dont take it from me, ill give you USADAS official statement regarding everything.

" Whether due to a genuine misunderstanding of the facts or an intentional desire to mislead, numerous unfounded and false accusations have been leveled against USADA in recent on-line articles. Since our inception, USADA's sole mission has been to protect clean sport. As such, it is unfortunate and extremely disappointing to have to address articles riddled with significant inaccuracies and misrepresentations based on unsubstantiated rumors as well as anonymous or self-interested sources that have recklessly called our integrity into question. It is simply absurd to suggest that we would ever compromise our integrity for any sport or athlete.

Although the articles in question contain a multitude of errors, all of which will be addressed at the appropriate time, we believe it is important to immediately correct the record regarding the false suggestion that Floyd Mayweather violated the rules by receiving an IV infusion of saline and vitamins.

As was already publicly reported in May of this year by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), Mr. Mayweather applied for and was granted a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) by USADA for an IV infusion of saline and vitamins that was administered prior to his May 2 fight against Manny Pacquiao. Mr. Mayweather's use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today. Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the WADA Code, he took the additional step of applying for a TUE after the IV infusion was administered in order remain in compliance with the USADA program. Although Mr. Mayweather's application was not approved until after his fight with Mr. Pacquiao and all tests results were reported, Mr. Mayweather did disclose the infusion to USADA in advance of the IV being administered to him. Furthermore, once the TUE was granted, the NSAC and Mr. Pacquiao were immediately notified even though the practice is not prohibited under NSAC rules."

lol.

[Lester Tutor]

You can keep posting that video all you want. I'm not ****ed in the head like you are. I dont have to worship the ground Roach walks on like you worship Froid. Roach is wrong, simple as that.

yeah man! the NSAC, Roach, and Ring all did a hell of a job concealing treatment for a severely dehydrated athlete ala IV. Of course Pac won, so we can just throw away any homicide evidence and act ****** and cause drama years down the line when we need to!

[Lester Tutor]

..and misrepresentations based on unsubstantiated rumors as well as anonymous or self-interested sources that have recklessly called our integrity into question. It is simply absurd to suggest that we would ever compromise our integrity for any sport or athlete.

one could hire John Grisham or Tom Clancy to make up suspense theories about Edward Snowden out of entertainment, but because it effects American natural security, they can't, regardless if they are great fiction writers aside from a law background.

Hauser didn't do anything wrong. He's also a fictional novelist. He can say anything he wants in defense because he didn't say USADA or Floyd did anything wrong. Just making a suspense article (and in question) if they could be trusted. Dude was just having fun, and retaliated because he wasn't allowed inside the Berto fight.

[GTTofAK]

No i think you are ignorant and trying to prove something that isnt true. Nothing done was illegal , floyd was granted the TUE. Everything was clarified and nothing against the rules was done. But dont take it from me, ill give you USADAS official statement regarding everything

What do you think USADA is going to say? Yeah Froid opened the door for us into boxing and paid us a lot of money so we gave him a TUE as a payoff?

Lets see that WADA which sets USADA's rules actually says about IV re-hydration and the granting of TUEs.

The use of IV infusions in sport is commonly linked with rehydration after exhaustive effort, and this situation is arguably the major cause of debate. It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, potentially even more effective than IV infusion.
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Hmm so WADA says that IV fluid administration is not an accepted method of re-hydration.

Lets see what they say about "retroactive TUEs"

In situations of medical emergency or clinical time constraints, a retroactive TUE application is acceptable (ISTUE 2015 article 4.3).

Where was the medial emergency or time constraint? If he was that dehydrated he shouldn't have been fighting period.

Why does WADA prohibit IV infusions

IV infusions are included on the Prohibited List mainly because some athletes could use this Prohibited Method to:
a) increase their plasma volume levels;
b) mask the use of a Prohibited Substance;
c) distort the values of their Athlete Biological Passport.

In sports with weight classifications, athletes may be encouraged to undertake significant, accelerated weight loss to qualify for a competition and then use IV infusion to rapidly rehydrate. This practice invokes issues of athlete health and safety.

Hauser challenged USADA on all of this in his response to their response. USADA didn't say **** back!

[GTTofAK]

yeah man! the NSAC, Roach, and Ring all did a hell of a job concealing treatment for a severely dehydrated athlete ala IV. Of course Pac won, so we can just throw away any homicide evidence and act ****** and cause drama years down the line when we need to!

Correct Pac won so no one paid it much attention. Here we have a more serious circumstance so people actually took the time to check the rules. Guess what the rules say? Nope not legal.