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  • Originally posted by original zero View Post
    Notice that Spoon ignores all of my points and then tries to just throw new mud at the wall to see what will stick.

    IV is 100% legal in Nevada, so a Nevada TUE wouldn't be needed for IV use.
    The protocol is no injections unless it's under 50ml every 6 hours or for emergency. Floyd took 250 ml and 500 ml at once the night before the fight.

    should also be in the hospital not in a house. And only if it's an emergency.

    Even if he followed the allowable limit, 50 ml every 6 hours in a 24 hour period equals 200 ml. Mayweather took 750 ml in one sitting. That is a system flush.
    Last edited by Spoon23; 02-17-2016, 06:16 AM.

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    • Spoon, you're either ****** or confused, but either way, you're wrong. You are quoting the rules of other organizations that do not apply. In Nevada, any amount of IV is allowed. You can take seven thousand ml if you want.

      Floyd did not break any rules. He was under no obligation to restrict himself to the standards of an organization that had no involvement or authority over him.

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      • Originally posted by original zero View Post
        Spoon, you're either ****** or confused, but either way, you're wrong. You are quoting the rules of other organizations that do not apply. In Nevada, any amount of IV is allowed. You can take seven thousand ml if you want.

        Floyd did not break any rules. He was under no obligation to restrict himself to the standards of an organization that had no involvement or authority over him.
        why is this wrong coz floyd had an exemption that exempts floyd from these rules?

        so floyd was exempted that he did not have to follow this strict protocols right?

        yes or no?

        The protocol is no injections unless it's under 50ml every 6 hours or for emergency. Floyd took 250 ml and 500 ml at once the night before the fight.

        should also be in the hospital not in a house. And only if it's an emergency.

        Even if he followed the allowable limit, 50 ml every 6 hours in a 24 hour period equals 200 ml. Mayweather took 750 ml in one sitting. That is a system flush.

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        • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
          why is this wrong coz floyd had an exemption that exempts floyd from these rules?

          so floyd was exempted that he did not have to follow this strict protocols right?

          yes or no?

          The protocol is no injections unless it's under 50ml every 6 hours or for emergency. Floyd took 250 ml and 500 ml at once the night before the fight.

          should also be in the hospital not in a house. And only if it's an emergency.

          Even if he followed the allowable limit, 50 ml every 6 hours in a 24 hour period equals 200 ml. Mayweather took 750 ml in one sitting. That is a system flush.

          IV USE IS LEGAL IN NEVADA FOR ALL FIGHTERS. YOU DON'T NEED AN EXEMPTION. YOU CAN TAKE TEN MILLION ml IF YOU WANT. IN A HOUSE. WITH A MOUSE. ON A TRAIN. IN THE RAIN.

          You are quoting the rules of a different entity that had nothing to do with Mayweather-Pacquiao.

          If you'd like for the NSAC to change their rules to mirror the rules you prefer, write them a letter.

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          • Originally posted by original zero View Post
            IV USE IS LEGAL IN NEVADA FOR ALL FIGHTERS. YOU DON'T NEED AN EXEMPTION. YOU CAN TAKE TEN MILLION ml IF YOU WANT. IN A HOUSE. WITH A MOUSE. ON A TRAIN. IN THE RAIN.

            You are quoting the rules of a different entity that had nothing to do with Mayweather-Pacquiao.

            If you'd like for the NSAC to change their rules to mirror the rules you prefer, write them a letter.
            lol yeah right..

            the thing is going into the fight nsac didnt know it yet. They only knew 3 weeks after the fight. technically nsac was the only one who can allow iv use. And they were in the dark for three weeks before and during the fight.

            technically, floyd went into the fight having admisnistered 750ml of iv illegally without the consent of NSAC. You cant spin that one buddy.

            All you are saying because of the golden leaf of immunity that Floyd got after three weeks from Nsac. Floyd was absolved of any crime.

            You can't retroactively get permission to do something that was already done.

            It's a double standard and that shouldn't fly.

            The commission are pieces of bias sh%ts.

            Not to mention the toradol shot pacquiao requested is legal under usada guidelines. Their excuse was the request was not filed within sufficient time...but mayweather gets a retroactive exemption (meaning after the event has already taken place) for the****utic use. How is this getting lost on people?

            Hence, if you have common sense this only shows how biased Nsac was for one guy, which only reeks dirty politics and corruption in boxing.

            A golden ticket of immunity to cheat in a form of a TUE how convenient.

            case closed
            Last edited by Spoon23; 02-17-2016, 06:57 AM.

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            • There was no need for NSAC to know . . . because . . .

              IV USE IS LEGAL IN NEVADA FOR ALL FIGHTERS. YOU DON'T NEED AN EXEMPTION. YOU CAN TAKE TEN MILLION ml IF YOU WANT. IN A HOUSE. WITH A MOUSE. ON A TRAIN. IN THE RAIN.

              Floyd didn't need NSAC to "allow" it because it was already 100% legal.

              What he needed though was to convince USADA that the use was legitimate as he had voluntarily agreed to additional regulations. As part of that voluntary agreement, Floyd & Manny both agreed to retroactive exemptions.

              Floyd didn't need permission for the IV because IV was already legal in Nevada, at any time, in any amount. But he had to convince USADA the use was legitimate and he had X amount of days after the fact to present his case.

              Which he did. And they determined he did nothing wrong.

              Case closed.

              Go get laid bro. You can't win this one.

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              • Originally posted by original zero View Post
                There was no need for NSAC to know . . . because . . .

                IV USE IS LEGAL IN NEVADA FOR ALL FIGHTERS. YOU DON'T NEED AN EXEMPTION. YOU CAN TAKE TEN MILLION ml IF YOU WANT. IN A HOUSE. WITH A MOUSE. ON A TRAIN. IN THE RAIN.

                Floyd didn't need NSAC to "allow" it because it was already 100% legal.

                What he needed though was to convince USADA that the use was legitimate as he had voluntarily agreed to additional regulations. As part of that voluntary agreement, Floyd & Manny both agreed to retroactive exemptions.

                Floyd didn't need permission for the IV because IV was already legal in Nevada, at any time, in any amount. But he had to convince USADA the use was legitimate and he had X amount of days after the fact to present his case.

                Which he did. And they determined he did nothing wrong.

                Case closed.

                Go get laid bro. You can't win this one.
                right, since it's not really an issue since NSAC allows any amounts of ivs, then NSAC shouldnt have to be angry for not being informed of the illegal use of ivs by Floyd then..

                so why was Bennett mad at usada if any amount of ivs is not an issue in vegas and it's a no big deal?

                black hole coming up..

                Baam!


                "As far as USADA, I was extremely disappointed that I wasn't notified right away (about Mayweather receiving an IV). When it comes to TUE, we are the sole agency that approves the administering of TUEs. USADA, nor any other anti-doping agency that does drug testing, doesn't have the authority to adminster a TUE.

                "The bottom line is USADA didn't keep us informed, which is totally unacceptable and unprofessional."


                Last edited by Spoon23; 02-17-2016, 07:19 AM.

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                • Not to mention Floyd and pac has an agreement that usada should follow the guidlines of wada at all times. Since USADA and VADA are under wada.

                  What is the rules of WADA..

                  here it is..


                  VADA was formed by Dr. Margaret Goodman.

                  Here is why the IV was against the rules of the NSAC:

                  1. USADA granted Mayweather a TUE when they had no capacity to do that. Only the NSAC can do it and they acknowledged this with a statement in the article.

                  2. Mayweather took an IV at home and not in a medical facility, and the total contents was 750 ml. The only allowable IV use is 50 ml in a 6 hour period, and has to be done in a medical facility.

                  Even if he followed the allowable limit, 50 ml every 6 hours in a 24 hour period equals 200 ml. Mayweather took 750 ml in one sitting. That is a system flush.

                  The protocol is no injections unless it's under 50ml every 6 hours or for emergency. Floyd took 250 ml and 500 ml at once the night before the fight.mmmmm

                  That's the most disturbing part. Reeks of corruption. The strange part was that NSAC was furious at USADA for even granting the the****utic use exemption. They claim only they can grant it in Nevada.


                  More specifically, the 2015 WADA Prohibited Substances and Methods List states, Intravenous infusions and/or injections of more than 50 ml per 6 hour period are prohibited except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures, or clinical investigations.

                  This prohibition is in effect at all times that the athlete is subject to testing. It exists because, in addition to being administered for the purpose of adding specific substances to a persons body, an IV infusion can dilute or mask the presence of another substance that is already in the recipients system or might be added to it in the near future.



                  time to get laid buddy boy.
                  Last edited by Spoon23; 02-17-2016, 07:22 AM.

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                  • Hahaha you just sunk your own battleship bro. NSAC is the only entity that can issue a valid exemption when it comes to NSAC rules and we both know NSAC didn't issue an exemption.

                    But we also know NSAC said Floyd did nothing wrong.

                    Which means NSAC does not require an exemption for IV since they did not grant an exemption and without an NSAC exemption, NSAC said Floyd did nothing wrong.

                    So all you did was prove that IV is 100% legal in Nevada because if it wasn't, since Floyd didn't have an NSAC exemption, it would mean he'd be in violation.

                    But we know he wasn't in violation because NSAC said so.

                    Checkmate.

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                    • ?? never said that

                      The thing is Bennett said NSAC was the only agency who can administer TUE.

                      Means you cant just stick a 750 ml in your system in Vegas, you need a TUE. Which was done 3 weeks after the fight since it was only found out by nsac 3 weeks after. Hence, golden ticket of immunity.

                      You can't retroactively get permission to do something that was already done.

                      Reeks of corruption.

                      Last edited by Spoon23; 02-17-2016, 07:30 AM.

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