Comments Thread For: Barrera: With a Good Strategy, Canelo Can Beat Golovkin

[aboutfkntime]

Once again sheep shagger how is ward in the same division as golovkin ?......a question u keep ducking !!!

I know that as a Hypekin fan, you must find it extremely difficult to keep up with Team Golovkin's lies, and broken promises..... and I also understand that it must be difficult for you to remember what division Hypekin currently represents..... especially considering the fact that you are not very intelligent and you clean toilets for a living..... but here, I will help you by providing a timeline.....


First it was, " Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154 - 168 "
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/box...-at-154160-168

Then Andre Ward announced his comeback.

So it became, " Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154 - 164 "

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-promoter-wed-fight-ward-164-50-50-split--93258

Then Ward said that he would consider a catchweight.

So it became, " Nobody at 154/160 can go 12 rounds with Golovkin "
http://www.mma-core.com/videos/Abel_...ht_us/10102303

Then Cotto/Canelo both insisted upon a catchweight.

So now it is, " Gennady Golovkin eyes unification at middleweight "
http://www.ibtimes.com.au/boxing-new...titles-1476074

Then Ward moved to LHW.

So NOW it is, " Golovkin Will Go Anywhere To Face Carl Froch! "

http://www.boxingscene.com/sanchez-golovkin-go-anywhere-face-carl-froch--97726

Hypekin will also fight Chudinov at 168.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/chudinov-i-more-experience-golovkin-fight--101335

So yea, I apologise, you're right..... Golovkin and Ward do not fight in the same divisions.

GGG now fights in the " anyone from 159-161, except Lara " division

[aboutfkntime]

Ward at 164 was bull****..but Ward did say no to a 3G fight at 168 few yrs back doe..da other guys u mention those are ppv fights at da time..Ward vs GGG isn't a ppv right..it's da better fight..just isn't ppv bc it won't generate da kind of $ fighters will want...Hopkins vs GGG is all talk.. just like wen Ward said he fight Floyd at 160..all talk ..can't take every comment fighters make as an actual contract..ppl just want to uses every comment to win an discussion..so Ward can make 160 for floyd but can't make 164 for 3G. .or 3G can make 154 for Floyd but can'tdo 155 for Canelo..164/155 is bull****..but Ward/3G not same division. .Canelo/3G are same division..so da makes 155 worst..Canelo fighting khan bc he couldn't find a MW to fight him at his bull**** weight of 155..and he need to look good ..so just keep fighting small guys .fans will still watch him so he does it..if 3G vs Ward would had happened at 164 I trash him too.

No he did not, that is bull****.

Back when Ward was inactive, they asked him if he was ready for that fight NOW, and he said no I need a tuneup first, because I have been inactive for 18 months.

Then a few months later, IMMEDIATELY after his tuneup with Smith, Ward approached K2..... they made a dozen excuses, and then demanded a catchweight that they know Ward cannot make.

But, cool story bro.

It is clearly obvious they avoided Ward.

[aboutfkntime]

There was never a catchweight 164 offer to Ward. GGG's team threw it out as a big FU to him because they felt he didn't deserve the fight. They knew it'd be DOA just as Ward and RocN knew his lousy offer to GGG for a one year commitment to meet at 168 and 50/50 after Golovkin had just signed on for Lemieux was DOA. But they got to run to the press and talk about those emails no ones ever asked to see!!!

Ward's had one fight against a side of beef at 172 in the last 2 YEARS. In fact, Ward hasn't seen 168 in well over 2 years now. So, exactly how much of a weight advantage does your boy Ward need to compete with GGG then? 10lbs? 15lbs?

1) your post is bull****, EVERY member of Team Golovkin demanded, and then reiterated, that catchweight demand..... including Golovkin himself.

2) you would have to be utterly ******ed to believe the bold

[aboutfkntime]

There was never a catchweight 164 offer to Ward. GGG's team threw it out as a big FU to him because they felt he didn't deserve the fight. They knew it'd be DOA just as Ward and RocN knew his lousy offer to GGG for a one year commitment to meet at 168 and 50/50 after Golovkin had just signed on for Lemieux was DOA. But they got to run to the press and talk about those emails no ones ever asked to see!!!

Ward's had one fight against a side of beef at 172 in the last 2 YEARS. In fact, Ward hasn't seen 168 in well over 2 years now. So, exactly how much of a weight advantage does your boy Ward need to compete with GGG then? 10lbs? 15lbs?

You dishonest **** ! smh

[aboutfkntime]

He's not defending it, you're on the same page. You're right, this is a chicken**** recent trend with lineage as

1. Cotto vs Marg 2
2. Floyd vs Canelo unification
3. Cotto MW stint
4. Canelo at 155

This last one is the sorriest, I bet most feeble of all time. None of the others demanded a lowest possible CW, none of them outweighed the challenger fight night. Those guys were legit smaller

Another dishonest **** !

The worst by far in recent times, is Manny Pacquiao.

AND YOU FKN KNOW IT !!

In fact, he started this whole problem with manny-weight.

How many catchweights is it now, 7, 8 ?

The odd catchweight here-and-there, sure..... but I have never seen another fighter make an art-form out of disadvantaging opponents on the scale like Pacquiao did.

And he got away with it because you " fans " said nothing, and because the media gave him a free pass.

And yet, you could not find room to fit him anywhere on your list ?

[!! Shawn]

I agree with MAB 100%....if the fight happens at 155 I'm putting some real bread on Nelo

I don't understand why Nelo is being slept on in this match up...the kid has the skills and ability to implement a good plan against Lil G....ain't **** basic about the young lion!!...Lil G hasn't been tested like Nelo has so when the going gets tough we don't know if Lil G gonna rise or crumble... I wouldn't be surprised if he melted under the brightest of lights

Because GGG is much more skilled than Canelo, hits much harder than anyone Canelo has fought, and has a very very deep amateur background, and very good footwork.

Canelo on the other hand has no footwork. He is a good fighter, a start fighter, but he is no the same caliber as GGG.

[!! Shawn]

Another dishonest **** !

The worst by far in recent times, is Manny Pacquiao.

AND YOU FKN KNOW IT !!

In fact, he started this whole problem with manny-weight.

How many catchweights is it now, 7, 8 ?

The odd catchweight here-and-there, sure..... but I have never seen another fighter make an art-form out of disadvantaging opponents on the scale like Pacquiao did.

And he got away with it because you " fans " said nothing, and because the media gave him a free pass.

And yet, you could not find room to fit him anywhere on your list ?

Are you forgetting Floyd Mayweather?...

[!! Shawn]

I agree with MAB 100%....if the fight happens at 155 I'm putting some real bread on Nelo

I don't understand why Nelo is being slept on in this match up...the kid has the skills and ability to implement a good plan against Lil G....ain't **** basic about the young lion!!...Lil G hasn't been tested like Nelo has so when the going gets tough we don't know if Lil G gonna rise or crumble... I wouldn't be surprised if he melted under the brightest of lights

You dont know what pressure is involved in winning a world amateur championship and a silver medal in the olympics on hostile soil do you?

He has faced the best fighters in the world. He has seen every style, he has seen people that fight just like Canelo but are twice as fast on more than one occasion.

As Roy Jones said during Rigondeaux vs Donaire "Winning a medal at the olympics is like winning vs Carmelo and Dwayne Wayde and Lebron."

People underestimate GGG. People dont get it, skill wise, he is on part with Rigo and Loma.

[bug0092]

I know that as a Hypekin fan, you must find it extremely difficult to keep up with Team Golovkin's lies, and broken promises..... and I also understand that it must be difficult for you to remember what division Hypekin currently represents..... especially considering the fact that you are not very intelligent and you clean toilets for a living..... but here, I will help you by providing a timeline.....


First it was, " Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154 - 168 "
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/box...-at-154160-168

Then Andre Ward announced his comeback.

So it became, " Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154 - 164 "

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-promoter-wed-fight-ward-164-50-50-split--93258

Then Ward said that he would consider a catchweight.

So it became, " Nobody at 154/160 can go 12 rounds with Golovkin "
http://www.mma-core.com/videos/Abel_...ht_us/10102303

Then Cotto/Canelo both insisted upon a catchweight.

So now it is, " Gennady Golovkin eyes unification at middleweight "
http://www.ibtimes.com.au/boxing-new...titles-1476074

Then Ward moved to LHW.

So NOW it is, " Golovkin Will Go Anywhere To Face Carl Froch! "

http://www.boxingscene.com/sanchez-golovkin-go-anywhere-face-carl-froch--97726

Hypekin will also fight Chudinov at 168.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/chudinov-i-more-experience-golovkin-fight--101335

So yea, I apologise, you're right..... Golovkin and Ward do not fight in the same divisions.

GGG now fights in the " anyone from 159-161, except Lara " division

GEE THIS LOOKS FAMILIAR. I CAN CUT AND PASTE, TOO. YOU MORON...

They have consistently said they will move up or down for big $$$/exposure fights. Your timeline proves nothing different. I've explained this to you a few times and all you do is post crap. But to address your BS let’s go over your timeline…

First it was, " Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154, 160, 168 "

Your first link is from March of 2012 when GGG started fighting in the States. Yes, he and his team said 154-168. They were looking for any live, name opponents at that time. Sometime between that and your next link was the meeting with HBO. GGG said yes. Ward said no. HBO wanted both fighters to get busy building the fight. So…

Golovkin fights Proksa, Rosado, Ishida, Jacklin, Stevens, Adama, Geale, Rubio, and Monroe Jr. culminating in sellouts at arenas on both coasts, ratings of around 1.2-1.4 million, and the overwhelming buzz of the boxing world.

Meanwhile, Ward fights…Dawson (at 168) in Sept 2012, Rodriguez in Nov 2013, and Smith in June 2015. The last fight takes place in Ward’s hometown arena where they are giving away tickets so the place won’t look half empty to the 300k watching around the world on BET. Somewhere in there, according to your timeline…

Then Andre Ward announced his comeback. So it became, " Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154, 160, 164 "

…you then post a link from July of 2015 which is over 3 YEARS AFTER your first…and yes, Loeffler threw out an even split 50/50 at 164. Considering the work each fighter put in and results they got in between your links, I’d say that’s a more-than-generous offer. Ironically, the article you linked to says GGG “won’t be facing IBF champion David Lemieux this year…” Then you claim …

Then Ward said that he would consider a catchweight. So it became, " Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154, 160 "

…and to back it up you actually go back in time a couple of months to May of 2015 to an interview Sanchez is giving about the upcoming Monroe Jr. fight. No mention of Ward here. No mention of 168. Just Abel saying no one at 154 or 160 goes 12 with GGG. Maybe you posted the wrong link? In any case, I’ve followed this situation pretty closely for the last couple of years and don’t ever recall Ward considering a catchweight. Please provide the proper link. Then your timeline continues with….

Then Cotto/Canelo both insisted upon a catchweight. So now it is, " Gennady Golovkin eyes unification at middleweight "

…but link to an article from late Oct of 2015 after GGG’d beaten Lemieux, and yes, hoping to unify as he will get the winner of Cotto/Canelo. No mention of a catchweight in the article. Shouldn’t be any as GGG is the WBC mandatory who agreed to step aside to get the winner. A winner cannot impose a catchweight on a mandatory challenger for the MW title in the MW division. Not sure what your point is with this one but the winner of this fight is a big $$$/exposure fight in his own division. No mention that K2 had already rejected Ward’s crappy offer of 50/50 and a 10-15lb weight disadvantage just after they’d signed on for Lemieux. Then you go to…

Then Ward moved to LHW. So NOW it is, " Golovkin Will Go Anywhere To Face Carl Froch! "

…which brings us to your last link from early Nov 2015. Eddie Hearn hints Froch may be lured out of retirement to fight GGG. Sanchez is asked about it and in the article he says …

“Carl Froch is a guy that we’ve always respected. Golovkin respects him tremendously for what he’s accomplished. I think the fact that he’s such a glow in England and filled up the Wembley Stadium when he fought George Groves, he still is somebody that Golovkin would love to fight because of that. Golovkin is looking for the biggest names, the biggest fights, the biggest financial reward fights for him and Carl represents one of those. Whether it’s in England, whether it’s in New York or Las Vegas, I think that Golovkin is willing to go anywhere to fight Carl Froch."

GGG has always been interested in Froch (Ward’s best win BTW) because of $$$ and exposure. How is this inconsistent? What does Ward moving up to his natural weight class at this point have to do with GGG/Froch? Does Ward fill up Wembley or bring big $$$? Ultimately telling is the respect offered to Froch who fought all the tough fights while Ward’s sat on his ass and done next to nothing. So now, Ward’s calling Golovkin names while sending BS offers. I think that GGG has respect for Ward’s skill as a fighter and he’s always said so, but to quote his interview about the HBO meeting, he says to Ward, “I have nothing left to discuss with you. As a man, you are dead to me.” That’s all you need to know.

The only inconsistencies here are in the logic and flow of your posts. Your problem is, that just like Ward, you haven’t put in the work.

[bug0092]

You dishonest **** ! smh

Nice. Now show me something that indicates GGG's camp ever sent Ward an offer. Also send me something that proves Ward sent and offer to GGG after the Smith fight as you claim. I'm unaware of either of these events. Enlighten me please.