who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[Lester Tutor]

Victor Conte criticizes Floyd Mayweather's USADA drug tests


https://*************/watch?v=WlYH_HqbVhw

Oh oh, Spoon getting spooked because Conte be pimping Pac's legacy with roids.

Conte on Floyd:

"I don't like the term Olympic Style."

"Who knows what boxer is doing what when they're not testing."

"Pac. Yes, he roided."

[Zaroku]

Oh oh, Spoon getting spooked because Conte be pimping Pac's legacy with roids.

Conte on Floyd:

"I don't like the term Olympic Style."

"Who knows what boxer is doing what when they're not testing."

"Pac. Yes, he roided."

GTTofAK thinks or implies we are one!! They, the PAC-A-MANIACS, lil bus riders and not boxing fans, make crazy statements!

I think I should stop posting, but PAC contacted me, he wants to know that Big Bob Arum, has ****ed that **** out of him and jinkee, and his out of wedlock children, who he doesn't acknowledge......

Lemme stop, I got a young japa ho next to me... I am getting too old to pull the poon I want!!! Life is unfair! Edit. Her teef are beyond ****ed up!! Snap

Any way, my message is, smash, burn and kill ****** where ever it shows up!!

[travestyny]

That is correct. There is a viable allowed alternative. Now can you show some oddball cirmstance where this is not the case? The answer is no.

The answer is in the fact that the TUE application was approved. Now what?

And how was it justified? Froid simply said the had dark urine. Neither Froid or USADA has presented a single statement or piece of evidence to suggust taht Froid somehow falls outside of the 13 medical references WADA cited in its conclusion that IV-rehydration for mild to moderate dehydration is not medically substantiated.

So....you missed the part where the TUE application asks for a medical practitioner to justify the use? Do I have to post this again? Oh, that's right, you can't read. My bad.

Your constant assertions that it is possible with no evidence is not an argument. It is possible that the earth was created by a giant spegetti monster too.

I don't need evidence. YOU need evidence. And it's clear you have none. Go learn about burden of proof. I don't expect you to be that advanced because you don't know the meaning of "or, potentially, preference, or mandatory." You need to go back to school.

As I said you moron of course they are not mandatory. A person could conceivably have a rare condition and be unable to receive treatment if they were mandatory. But as the controlling authority on specific substances and procedures you damn well better be able to show some extremely credible and extreme reason why the medical review is not accurate in a specific case.

Nothing put forward by USADA or Froid. Gives an ounce of credibility to the argument that Froid simply couldn't have re-hydrate orally. As such he is in violation of ISTUE.

You have the nerve to call someone a moron when I already owned you on this very topic, and have owned you repeatedly? Now now. Do I need to go back and make a post based on all of the times I've owned your punk a$$. I'll spare you the embarrassment and just keep it to this topic.

Now, please explain how something that is NOT MANDATORY can be CONTROLLING. Is this your belief? Please explain.

ps. I won't hesitate to tell you that I'm playing mind games with your punkass. If you answer the above question, you will officially be owning yourself. If you don't answer, you are a coward. So what will it be?

You lost. Plain and simple. You should have stopped yourself from licking on led paint as a kid. Save the thinking for someone with a brain, you waste of bone marrow.

[travestyny]

Landis testimony dealt specifically with when the US team was home training undergoing their random year round testing. There was only one testing agency testing the US team when they are home and that was USADA. There is no other possible source for a tip-off than USADA itself. You aren't even in flying spaghetti monster territory with this argument. You are arguing something impossible.

As for you 500 vs. 60 ****** comment. The vast majority of Armstrong's tests or any riders, or any other athletes tests for that matter occur during competition. The Tour De France tests after every leg. You dont need anyone tipping you off during competition the piss man is coming. You ****ing know the piss man is coming. When I was tested under NCAA protocol the vast majority of my tests occurred right after games and I knew they were coming. The random year round program was very infrequent.

So your argument is simply ignorant and ******, again. Of course the vast majority of his tests were performed by other national testing agencies. They were done during competition. The random year round "Olympic Style" that he needed to be tipped off about was done by USADA unless of course another national testing agency happened to catch him on a vacation in their country. But I doubt he was dumb enough to set himself up for that.

You seem to know a lot about what Landis said. Please show me the quotations that state he is implicating USADA in helping him cheat. I dare you.

You should be aware that he appeared at Yale University to discuss his cheating ways along with Travis Tygart. Any idea who that is? I'll give you a hint. It's someone who wouldn't be appearing there with him, at least not under amicable circumstances, if Landis was insinuating that his company was an accomplice to his illegal activity.

In fact, Landis said specifically that cheating weighed heavily on his conscience and he just wanted to tell the truth. Never did he mention anything about USADA being involved, and he had nothing to gain from protecting USADA if they were involved.

So show the facts. If not, I'm sorry to say that ONCE AGAIN you've been owned. You should just shut your ****** face already. The next time you think you have something to say, you should remember how many times I've owned you...and then err on the side of caution by shutting the **** up.

Thank you.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/armstrong-whistleblowers-recall-anti-doping-crusade-article-1.1276605

[Dosumpthin]

Originally Posted by GTTofAK

"Contrary to Mr. Hauser’s inaccurate reports, the USADA DCO was in the home and observed Mr Mayweather’s condition that precipitated the need for an IV." - as per USADA


Observing a condition and concluding that it participates the need for an IV is called diagnosing you dip****.

"Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO who was made aware of the need for the IV due to Mr. Mayweather’s physical condition" - as per USADA


It does not say made aware of by the paramedic, not made aware of by some unnamed physician, it says made aware of due to Mr. Mayweather's physical condition. The word for that is a diagnosis you absolute ****ing moron!

What has happened to our educational system. You morons dont know the meaning of words.

The Scholastic Four

Spoon
Rath
Adp02
GTTofAK

Isn't it funny the four biggest pact@rds all share one thing in common? They all have demonstrated their lack of reading and comprhension skills at some point in this thread.

[ADP02]

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The Scholastic Four

Spoon
Rath
Adp02
GTTofAK

Isn't it funny the four biggest pact@rds all share one thing in common? They all have demonstrated their lack of reading and comprhension skills at some point in this thread.

Says the one defending Floyd even though science is not on Floyd's side.

30 days out 150
2 weeks out 149
1 week out 148
weigh in 146 - then drank a lot and later "I ate a lot"
Fight night weight 149

Floyd fan: Floyd required an IV because Floyd said so. Oh, so did the people that were paid off 150K and his doctor who he paid $$$ to give them some documentation, after the fact.

USADA and studies:
•Monitor fluid losses: Weigh-in before and after training, especially during hot weather and conditioning phases of the season
•For each pound lost during exercise, drink three cups of fluid


Floyd fan: Delay completion of urine sample 6 hours? It makes a lot of sense.
Floyd required an IV? It makes a lot of sense.


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[Dosumpthin]

Lets take the time to learn how to read. I'm not an English professor so I can not define all sentence structures and adjective conjunctions. But I'm not ****** like GTTofAK.





"Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO who was made aware of the need for the IV due to Mr. Mayweather’s physical condition" - as per USADA

"Mr. Mayweather declared...." Floyd informed/notified/announced

"the infusion...." the iv

"in advance...." before he intended to use

So this section fragment of the sentence is telling the reader Floyd informed someone of his predetermined intended use of the iv. Who does he inform of the iv?

"to the USADA DCO..." this is who he informed. The Usada doping control officer. We know part of his job is to observe so this makes sense.


"who was made aware of...." the dco was informed and now is aware. The dco acknowledged the information that was being declared. Aware of what?

"The need for the IV...." the dco was informed by Mr mayweather and is now conscious of the necessity to use the IV. But why is there a need?

"due to...." due to what??? Explain the need????


"Mr. Mayweather's physical condition." got it.

So due to his PHYSICAL condition - symptoms of dehydration - that is why Mr Mayweather needed an infusion and informed the dco before the intended use.



Somehow GTTofAK read this statement multiple times and still thinks the DCO DIAGNOSED FLOYDS MEDICAL CONDTION.

His response was.....

It does not say made aware of by the paramedic, not made aware of by some unnamed physician, it says made aware of due to Mr. Mayweather's physical condition. The word for that is a diagnosis you absolute ****ing moron!

I know. what a ****ing dumbass. Right?

But you really have to second guess everything he types from this point on. It's evident that SCHOLASTIC FOUR member GTTofAK severely lacks the reading and comprehension skills necessary to understand the legality of Wada code.

[Dosumpthin]

Says the one defending Floyd even though science is not on Floyd's side.

30 days out 150
2 weeks out 149
1 week out 148
weigh in 146 - then drank a lot and later "I ate a lot"
Fight night weight 149

Floyd fan: Floyd required an IV because Floyd said so. Oh, so did the people that were paid off 150K and his doctor who he paid $$$ to give them some documentation, after the fact.

USADA and studies:
•Monitor fluid losses: Weigh-in before and after training, especially during hot weather and conditioning phases of the season
•For each pound lost during exercise, drink three cups of fluid


Floyd fan: Delay completion of urine sample 6 hours? It makes a lot of sense.
Floyd required an IV? It makes a lot of sense.


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We've been down this road before.

You did it to urself. You denied the meaning of the word "OR". Just so you can hold on to your conspiracy.

Be a proud member and wear your badge with honor.

SCHOLASTIC FOUR

[ADP02]

Says the one defending Floyd even though science is not on Floyd's side.

30 days out 150
2 weeks out 149
1 week out 148
weigh in 146 - then drank a lot and later "I ate a lot"
Fight night weight 149

Floyd fan: Floyd required an IV because Floyd said so. Oh, so did the people that were paid off 150K and his doctor who he paid $$$ to give them some documentation, after the fact.

USADA and studies:
•Monitor fluid losses: Weigh-in before and after training, especially during hot weather and conditioning phases of the season
•For each pound lost during exercise, drink three cups of fluid


Floyd fan: Delay completion of urine sample 6 hours? It makes a lot of sense.
Floyd required an IV? It makes a lot of sense.


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We've been down this road before.

You did it to urself. You denied the meaning of the word "OR". Just so you can hold on to your conspiracy.

Be a proud member and wear your badge with honor.

SCHOLASTIC FOUR

Oh deflections .....

I told you that the reason can be different for any substance and or method.

Zaroku gave you a hint ......

You are looking at it the wrong way. Think about it as a function in a programming language. Within that function you have your OR and OR and OR but what happens if that function is never called? Then that means that you never get to the OR and OR and OR. Starting to get the picture now?

So if the medical reason is not justifiable to receive a retroactive TUE, then that function or bunch of criteria never come into the picture.

Now concerning Floyd's case:
Think of it this way, the DCO comes to get a sample on an unexpected athlete. The athlete is super sure that they will find something(PEDs). So he has 18 days to think of a good excuse and file for a retroactive TUE. Just like Lance Armstrong did!!! Lance gave them a retroactive prescription after the fact.

Or do like Floyd did, say he was severely dehydrated then get his doctor to agree with him. That is nonsense!!! Is this how easy it is to get a free pass with USADA????

Now even if you are not convinced, it does not matter because that had nothing to do with Floyd's case (initial example). Or at least it shouldn't.
Floyd could not have been severely dehydrated due to his stable weight.

If you want to say that Floyd was slightly dehydrated, sure I can go with that but that does NOT warrant an IV. The numbers (weight) just does not add up. USADA has a lot of explaining to do.

I see you keep on deflecting this point just like others who are desperately trying to defend Floyd but with nothing substantial. Oh and do not come back and say we do not have this and that. We have enough information ........... See above post for starters.



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[Spoon23]

Says the one defending Floyd even though science is not on Floyd's side.

30 days out 150
2 weeks out 149
1 week out 148
weigh in 146 - then drank a lot and later "I ate a lot"
Fight night weight 149

Floyd fan: Floyd required an IV because Floyd said so. Oh, so did the people that were paid off 150K and his doctor who he paid $$$ to give them some documentation, after the fact.

USADA and studies:
•Monitor fluid losses: Weigh-in before and after training, especially during hot weather and conditioning phases of the season
•For each pound lost during exercise, drink three cups of fluid


Floyd fan: Delay completion of urine sample 6 hours? It makes a lot of sense.
Floyd required an IV? It makes a lot of sense.


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