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  • Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post
    As for as the USADA being out of line granting a TUE, and Mayweather's use of IV injection being a violation, I quoted the executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, Robert Bennett. These are the main points of my comments. Show me documentation from a reliable source that is to the contrary. FYI, Mayweather saying he did nothing wrong does not qualify.

    Maybe this will help clear up the confusion caused by hausers article........


    As Mr. Bennett from the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) said on September 12th:

    “Mr. Mayweather has done nothing wrong. The Nevada State Athletic Commission has no interest in any type of investigation regarding his IV. He did not violate the WADA Prohibited List for any type of drugs that are prohibited on that list, and we have no interest in it whatsoever." As per MR BENNETT


    IV USE WAS NOT PROHIBITTED UNDER NSAC RULES.

    Usada issued a response to hausers claims


    http://www.usada.org/usada-response-to-inaccuracies-misleading-information-professional-boxing-article/



    Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today. In fact, it is a common practice among athletes licensed to fight in Nevada. As such, it is illogical to suggest that Mr. Mayweather had an obligation to apply to NSAC for a TUE for a procedure that is not prohibited or otherwise monitored by them. Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the World Anti-Doping Code, he took the additional step of applying for a TUE after the IV infusion was administered in order to remain in compliance with the USADA program.



    NO WHERE DOES IT SAY IN NSAC GUIDELINES THAT IV METHOD IS PROHIBITTED AND ONLY REFERS TO WADAS LIST OF BANNED SUBSTANCES.

    http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NAC/NAC-467.html#NAC467Sec850

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    • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
      But the FACTS are IV METHOD WAS NOT BANNED UNDER NSAC.
      Oh yes they are.

      "PROHIBITED ACTS;

      NAC 467.850; Administration or use of alcohol, stimulants, drugs or injections; urinalysis or chemical tests; disciplinary action. (NRS 467.030)
      1.The administration of or use of any:
      (a)Alcohol
      (b)Stimulant; or
      (c)Drug or injection that has not been approved by the Commission"
      Any injection is banned if it is not on the approved list. IV saline is not on the list.

      We know that the NSAC said its okay but the NSAC has 0 credibility. Its regarded as the most corrupt state athletic association in the wold. We are over a year out from Froid's IV and the NSAC, despite saying the IV re-hydration is legal, has yet to add it to the approved list. Why? Simple answer Dana White and the UFC are cracking down on IV re-hydration. If the NSAC were to add it to the approved list that would be undercutting the UFC.

      So we have the NSAC saying one thing for Froid and another for the UFC because all the NSAC cares about is $$$$. The true official stance of the NSAC is that IV re-hydration is only legal for Froid.
      Last edited by GTTofAK; 03-01-2016, 02:02 PM.

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      • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
        Oh yes they are.



        Any injection is banned if it is not on the approved list. IV saline is not on the list.

        We know that the NSAC said its okay but the NSAC has 0 credibility. Its regarded as the most corrupt state athletic association in the wold. We are over a year out from Froid's IV and the NSAC, despite saying the IV re-hydration is legal, has yet to add it to the approved list. Why? Simple answer Dana White and the UFC are cracking down on IV re-hydration. If the NSAC were to add it to the approved list that would be undercutting the UFC.

        So we have the NSAC saying one thing for Froid and another for the UFC because all the NSAC cares about is $$$$. The true official stance of the NSAC is that IV re-hydration is only legal for Froid.
        Not it's not. This is where you the Floyd haters follow out of context information.

        USADA was the official body to oversee drug testing for the Mayweather and Pacquiao bout. This was told to the public prior to the May vs Pac bout, and particularly important because that's what Top Rank FINALLY agreed to.

        NOW, the NSAC has its general rules and it's rules as commission to do DRUG TESTING, but because they were NOT OVERSEEING DRUG TESTING, why would the NSAC even challenge an organization about their protocols when they themselves are acknowledging that USADA is more accredited? This is why the NSAC had no interest in these ****** story by Hauser. lol

        It kind of sucks when you can't find banned substances innit!

        What is Hauser even doing nowadays?

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        • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
          Oh yes they are.



          Any injection is banned if it is not on the approved list. IV saline is not on the list.

          We know that the NSAC said its okay but the NSAC has 0 credibility. Its regarded as the most corrupt state athletic association in the wold. We are over a year out from Froid's IV and the NSAC, despite saying the IV re-hydration is legal, has yet to add it to the approved list. Why? Simple answer Dana White and the UFC are cracking down on IV re-hydration. If the NSAC were to add it to the approved list that would be undercutting the UFC.

          So we have the NSAC saying one thing for Froid and another for the UFC because all the NSAC cares about is $$$$. The true official stance of the NSAC is that IV re-hydration is only legal for Froid.
          You are aware that nsac drug testing was revamped on may 15th 2015 right? If you are referring to anything in their current policy, it may not have applied at the time Mayweather and pacquiao fought.

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          • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
            Maybe this will help clear up the confusion caused by hausers article........


            As Mr. Bennett from the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) said on September 12th:

            “Mr. Mayweather has done nothing wrong. The Nevada State Athletic Commission has no interest in any type of investigation regarding his IV. He did not violate the WADA Prohibited List for any type of drugs that are prohibited on that list, and we have no interest in it whatsoever." As per MR BENNETT


            IV USE WAS NOT PROHIBITTED UNDER NSAC RULES.

            Usada issued a response to hausers claims


            http://www.usada.org/usada-response-...oxing-article/



            Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today. In fact, it is a common practice among athletes licensed to fight in Nevada. As such, it is illogical to suggest that Mr. Mayweather had an obligation to apply to NSAC for a TUE for a procedure that is not prohibited or otherwise monitored by them. Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the World Anti-Doping Code, he took the additional step of applying for a TUE after the IV infusion was administered in order to remain in compliance with the USADA program.



            NO WHERE DOES IT SAY IN NSAC GUIDELINES THAT IV METHOD IS PROHIBITTED AND ONLY REFERS TO WADAS LIST OF BANNED SUBSTANCES.

            http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NAC/NAC-4...l#NAC467Sec850
            You must have missed my earlier post on this. Bennett was also quoted stating:"The TUE for Mayweather's IV -- and the IV was administered at Floyd's house, not in a medical facility, and wasn't brought to our attention at the time -- was totally unacceptable." The substances in the IV itself aren't in question, it's the amount, location of administration and late notification to the NSAC. Mayweather had 750ml administered while 50ml in a 6 hour period is the limit. That's 15 times the acceptable limit. If Bennett did absolve Mayweather of any wrong doing, he contradicted himself.

            http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...cording-report

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            • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
              Oh yes they are.



              Any injection is banned if it is not on the approved list. IV saline is not on the list.

              We know that the NSAC said its okay but the NSAC has 0 credibility. Its regarded as the most corrupt state athletic association in the wold. We are over a year out from Froid's IV and the NSAC, despite saying the IV re-hydration is legal, has yet to add it to the approved list. Why? Simple answer Dana White and the UFC are cracking down on IV re-hydration. If the NSAC were to add it to the approved list that would be undercutting the UFC.

              So we have the NSAC saying one thing for Froid and another for the UFC because all the NSAC cares about is $$$$. The true official stance of the NSAC is that IV re-hydration is only legal for Froid.

              This is not an approval list....its a prohibbited list.


              Nice spin but nope.


              So now the NSAC has zero credibilty?


              Man can we list all of the agencies, refs, doctors, promoters, judges that are on the floyd payroll in one master thread?


              Or we can expose just one person ,hauser ,for the disgruntled agenda driven liar he is.

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                Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
                Not it's not.
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                USADA was the official body to oversee drug testing for the Mayweather and Pacquiao bout. This was told to the public prior to the May vs Pac bout, and particularly important because that's what Top Rank FINALLY agreed to.

                NOW, the NSAC has its general rules and it's rules as commission to do DRUG TESTING, but because they were NOT OVERSEEING DRUG TESTING, why would the NSAC even challenge an organization about their protocols when they themselves are acknowledging that USADA is more accredited? This is why the NSAC had no interest in these ****** story by Hauser. lol

                It kind of sucks when you can't find banned substances innit!

                What is Hauser even doing nowadays?
                Noting in the above diatribe supports the original claim. Its just run on bull****.

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                • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                  This is not an approval list....its a prohibbited list.


                  Nice spin but nope.


                  So now the NSAC has zero credibilty?


                  Man can we list all of the agencies, refs, doctors, promoters, judges that are on the floyd payroll in one master thread?


                  Or we can expose just one person ,hauser ,for the disgruntled agenda driven liar he is.
                  It was plenty credible in 2010

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                  • Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post
                    You must have missed my earlier post on this. Bennett was also quoted stating:"The TUE for Mayweather's IV -- and the IV was administered at Floyd's house, not in a medical facility, and wasn't brought to our attention at the time -- was totally unacceptable." The substances in the IV itself aren't in question, it's the amount, location of administration and late notification to the NSAC. Mayweather had 750ml administered while 50ml in a 6 hour period is the limit. That's 15 times the acceptable limit. If Bennett did absolve Mayweather of any wrong doing, he contradicted himself.

                    http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...cording-report
                    Your like 3 months behind.


                    Yes. He contridicted himself. Thats why i posted the statement, of clarifing the IV issue.


                    Bennet is correct, if it was banned, then USADA can not be the sole grantor of a tue for NSAC rules.....

                    But you can not issue a theraputic use exemption for something that is not exempt.

                    Did you not read anything i posted?

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                    • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                      This is not an approval list....its a prohibbited list.
                      No you dumb****. The NSAC has an approved list.

                      4.  The following types of drugs or injections are approved by the Commission:

                      (a) Antacids, such as Maalox.

                      (b) Antibiotics, antifungals or antivirals that have been prescribed by a physician.

                      (c) Antidiarrheals, such as Imodium, Kaopectate or Pepto-Bismol.

                      (d) Antihistamines for colds or allergies, such as Bromphen, Brompheniramine, Chlorpheniramine Maleate, Chlor-Trimeton, Dimetane, Hismal, PBZ, Seldane, Tavist-1 or Teldrin.

                      (e) Antinauseants, such as Dramamine or Tigan.

                      (f) Antipyretics, such as Tylenol.

                      (g) Antitussives, such as Robitussin, if the antitussive does not contain codeine.

                      (h) Antiulcer products, such as Carafate, Pepcid, Reglan, Tagamet or Zantac.

                      (i) Asthma products in aerosol form, such as Brethine, Metaproterenol (Alupent) or Salbutamol (Albuterol, Proventil or Ventolin).

                      (j) Asthma products in oral form, such as Aminophylline, Cromolyn, Nasalide or Vanceril.

                      (k) Ear products, such as Auralgan, Cerumenex, Cortisporin, Debrox or Vosol.

                      (l) Hemorrhoid products, such as Anusol-HC, Preparation H or Nupercainal.

                      (m) Laxatives, such as Correctol, Doxidan, Dulcolax, Efferyllium, Ex-Lax, Metamucil, Modane or Milk of Magnesia.

                      (n) Nasal products, such as AYR Saline, HuMist Saline, Ocean or Salinex.

                      (o) The following decongestants:

                      (1) Afrin;

                      (2) Oxymetazoline HCL Nasal Spray; or

                      (3) Any other decongestant that is pharmaceutically similar to a decongestant listed in subparagraph (1) or (2).

                      Now shut the **** up you moron.

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