who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

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Floyd is the only boxer in history who give excuses even if he wins

Floyd vs Castillo remember that?

I remember the instant rematch and clear win that was the honourable thing to do , Floyd rematches what people consider to be a very close fight and he wins those clearly to prove the point , Manny beats a guy twice and chooses him for a 3rd when the best WWs are calling him out , you fail again .

[imperial1]

Has to be fraud IV he may be the biggest ped cheat in boxing

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Naah, you just cant understand how to read graphs reloaded.

And a lot of boxers are ripped and clean like Pac. The big question mark is when a boxer gets older and they become even ripper without even flexing. That's a red flag.

I read your graph right and Manny explodes in 1 year what took Floyd 3 and that was the year everybody was accusing him of peds isnt that a coincidence , no second prize kid you failed in your attempt to muddy the water .

And Manny got bigger as he got older wtf are trying to spin now lol .

[monkeyboy]

At what point do you think pac used peds? because even very earlier in his career he already has shown extraordinary feats hell kid pacquiao has even more stamina than prime pac.

To be frank I'd love to say that I don't think he did but the fact is that for a while he was working with Ariza which is a major red flag. The whole testing protocol arguments didn't help him in hindsight either (scared of injections, really?)

He carried incredible speed, stamina and power up with him as he grew and as with so many contemporary fighters has aged unnaturally well despite having been in some real wars.

The fact is that all top athletes in any sport should be under su****ion and much as I like Pac he's not exempt. Floyd with his IV and ripped acne Marquez are more immediately obvious I'll grant you.

[Spoon23]

Pacquiao had surgery because he was bored and also spent nearly a year out of the ring.

The Floydboys were certain Pacquiao would be back around something like September of last year and funnily enough Pacquiao was out of commission longer than Mayweather after Castillo. Floyd was recovered and in heavy training after about 5 months hilariously.

After saying that clear point. Fl0mos won't still get it lol

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Oh but then again you had a notorious sports writer like Kevin Iole who had already explained to the public months before Thomas Hauser's article about the IV and TUE. You mean the wbole boxing world couldn't read or other sports writers didn't even think to progress the facts!?? Lol

No, it took HBO and Top Rank conspiring against Floyd a week before the Berto fight to rehash Hauser's old PED articles in boxing only to create fictiom from what Kevin Iole had already debunked. So we are assuming Kevin Iole's initial article was his capacity and it could only be Hauser re-explaung the PED mess publicity attraction articles done before? Kind of like Hauser reselling or reminding the public to buy his books on Ali. Lol

people eat this stuff rather easily as if HBO and affiliates are the defacto truth. Gtfoh

SMH, Flroid is guilty man, accept it or not, it doesn't really matter to me.

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SMH, Flroid is guilty man, accept it or not, it doesn't really matter to me.

I think it matters to you greatly , by rearranging evidence adding your own spin on things you can then live with the fact Floyd beat the sht out of you the whole way and you hated that , every time you said Floyd would lose he won so you must create an excuse for that , Floyd owns you .

[Spoon23]

I read your graph right and Manny explodes in 1 year what took Floyd 3 and that was the year everybody was accusing him of peds isnt that a coincidence , no second prize kid you failed in your attempt to muddy the water .

And Manny got bigger as he got older wtf are trying to spin now lol .

Lol you want to understand a graph, you need common sense.

2 guys grows as they mature @ Age 16 Pac and Floyd are almost he same weight 108 and 106 respectively. Then @ age 31 Pac is at 147 while Floyd is even bigger at 154 lbs.

So if one grew even more unnatural, if you want to argue that point you should be pointing the finger to Floyd since he grew bigger. ( which I don't agree with your logic since I am mainly showing this graph to show there is nothing wrong with Pac's growth)

From age 18 to 19 Floyd exploded from 112 to 125 so what's your point? Lol




Age 16. Age 17. Age 18. Age 19. Age 20. Age 21

Pac 108 108. 112. 112. 112. 122.

Floyd 106 112. 112. 125. 130. 130

Age 22. Age 23. Age 24. Age 25. Age 26. Age 27

Pac 122. 122. 126 126. 130. 130

Floyd 130. 130. 130. 135. 135. 140


Age 28. Age 29. Age 30. Age 31

Pac. 130. 140. 140. 147

Floyd 140. 147. 154. 154

[ELPacman]

Honestly, whether Pac was on PEDs or not, doesn't have to do with the way he was beating up his opponents. He put on a clinic in the way he destroyed his opponents. It was through skill. He didn't just bully his way through his opponents, he broke them down with strategy. A lot of slipping/countering, and taking away their best weapons. People ignore that.
Marquez was always Marquez. The way he was able to drop Pac like he never did in 3 previous fights raises some flags.
Fraud, well, with the amount of money he's made, he could pay off the entire city of Las Vegas and they wouldn't say a word. But yeah, he's also been the one that has come up positive out of all 3.
When everyone is on PEDs, you have to look at the nature they beat up their opponents to really decide whether or not the PED truly helped or rather provided an assist, because like I said, Pac didn't just bully his way through opponents, he put on a master display of aggressive boxing.
Marquez didn't change his style much and all a sudden he was knocking down the bigger dudes.
Jr. was always Jr. Even if he outweighed his opponents by 40lbs, he probably would still rather pot shot, slip, duck, slide, and go on to a boring UD.

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Lol you want to understand a graph, you need common sense.

2 guys grows as they mature @ Age 16 Pac and Floyd are almost he same weight 108 and 106 respectively. Then @ age 31 Pac is at 147 while Floyd is even bigger at 15 lbs.

So if one grew even more unnatural, if you want to argue that point you should be pointing the finger too Floyd since he grew bigger. ( which I don't agree with your logic since I am mainly showing this graph to show there is nothing wrong with Pac's growth)

From age 18 to 19 Floyd exploded from 112 to 125 so what's your point? Lol




Age 16. Age 17. Age 18. Age 19. Age 20. Age 21

Pac 108 108. 112. 112. 112. 122.

Floyd 106 112. 112. 125. 130. 130

Age 22. Age 23. Age 24. Age 25. Age 26. Age 27

Pac 122. 122. 126 126. 130. 130

Floyd 130. 130. 130. 135. 135. 140


Age 28. Age 29. Age 30. Age 31

Pac. 130. 140. 140. 147

Floyd 140. 147. 154. 154

Kid you are a fckn idiot .

Look at Manny from 135 to 147 as in the time it took to pack on lean muscle and look at Floyd as in time it took him , look at Floyd versus Oscar he was a plump and round as he has ever been , the weight on fighters on face value means nothing , its how you fill out that weight over time and nobody massed up pure muscle in 1 year like Manny did .

You show a pic of Floyd 10 yrs apart , 10 fckn years and I showed a pic of Manny less than 3 yrs apart .

You state Manny is from training , wtf do think Floyd does watch others train , Ive seen Floyd train and he is like an animal in the gym that man works harder than any fighter Ive ever seen .

Manny fanboys are most hating witch hunting fanboys in boxing , thread after thread they start all with one motive hating on FM .

Just to add to this , Asians and American Negros are ripped by nature both have very low body fat high muscle ratio naturally .