who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[Dosumpthin]

I really wish you could read. Let me break this down for you yet again, as has already been done.

"The use of IV infusions in sport is commonly linked with rehydration after exhaustive effort, and this situation is arguably the major cause of debate. It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration (1) is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. (2)There is a well-established body of scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, (3)potentially even more effective than IV infusion."

(1) So it has not been clinically proven to correct mild to moderate dehydration, not substantiated by medical literature. Does it say that it was clinically disproven? It does not.

(2)There is evidence that oral rehydration IS PREFERRED. Ok. There is a preference. No problem.

(3) Oral rehydration is potentially more effective. POTENTIALLY. How the hell did you take this statement to read, and I quote, "even more effective?" DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD POTENTIALLY MEANS???

OF COURSE YOU DON'T BECAUSE YOU ARE ******ED. So who's the moron?

That's just to start. Here is the rest of what you've been dodging.


You idiot. There is a document that is completely responsible for when a TUE will be granted, and that is the ISTUE. Too bad you can't read it. Still waiting for you to show me where it states that severe dehydration must be proven to receive a TUE. WHY HAVE YOU BEEN DUCKING THIS SINCE YOU'VE SAID THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES? Could it be that you would have to realize YOU CAN'T READ!


I don't have any problem with what they wrote at all. The question is, does the ISTUE allow for IV use? It clearly does if it can be justified.

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Does this explain why you:
Don't know what the meaning of "OR" is....
Don't know what the meaning of the word POTENTIALLY is...
Can't seem to understand the documentation in the picture I provided above...
Can't show me where in the ISTUE it states that severe dehydration must be proven in order to secure a TUE....

You're not fooling anyone. Everyone knows you are an idiot. For someone who claims to have science degrees, why is it that I've been owning you over and over...and over...and over. And this is all because YOU CAN'T READ! You remind me of Rocky Balboa trying to do commercials.

Let me put it to you even more clearly since you have the mental capacity of a bag of dust. The ISTUE clearly allows IV use if the athlete or medical practitioner can prove that it is justifiable.

Now, show me your proof that it was not proven to be justified.

That's what I thought. Now shut your dumb a$$ up.

Destroyed again. Well at least in english.
He speaks pact@rdenese. There is no such thing as conjunctions or adjectives so expect more of the same from him.

[Dosumpthin]

Originally Posted by GTTofAK

"Contrary to Mr. Hauser’s inaccurate reports, the USADA DCO was in the home and observed Mr Mayweather’s condition that precipitated the need for an IV." - as per USADA


Observing a condition and concluding that it participates the need for an IV is called diagnosing you dip****.

"Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO who was made aware of the need for the IV due to Mr. Mayweather’s physical condition" - as per USADA


It does not say made aware of by the paramedic, not made aware of by some unnamed physician, it says made aware of due to Mr. Mayweather's physical condition. The word for that is a diagnosis you absolute ****ing moron!

What has happened to our educational system. You morons dont know the meaning of words.

The Scholastic Four

Spoon
Rath
Adp02
GTTofAK

Isn't it funny the four biggest pact@rds all share one thing in common? They all have demonstrated their lack of reading and comprhension skills at some point in this thread.

[travestyny]

What has happened to our educational system. You morons dont know the meaning of words.

HAHAHAHAHA. THIS DUDE IS ALWAYS OWNING HIMSELF!

Here is your assignment, little homie. When you get off the little yellow bus, I wan't you to work on this. It could take you awhile.

Find the definitions of:

1. Or
2. Potentially
3. Diagnose
4. Observe


Report back to me in about a week. I know it may take you longer, but do your best

[GTTofAK]

There is evidence that oral rehydration IS PREFERRED. Ok. [B]There is a preference.

Then that is the end of the argument. No other bold letters. No other /red /size. Thats it. You admit that there is a viable alternative. So Froid broke the rules.

There is a document that is completely responsible for when a TUE will be granted, and that is the ISTUE.

Where in the ISTUE does it say that this document is the sole authority on TUE?

Any other documentation for WADA on TUE's has just as much authority. Agian you are arguing that WADA researched a published this entire section on IV re-hydration complete with 13 references for absolutely no reason. You are arguing that this has absolutely no controlling authority what so ever. That is simply ******.

I don't have any problem with what they wrote at all. The question is, does the ISTUE allow for IV use? It clearly does if it can be justified.

The question is not that. The question is does ALL WADA code not just that one form allow for IV use. The answer is no. It actually instructs that reader to refer to other WADA documents.

Comment to 4.1: The WADA documents titled “Medical Information to Support the Decisions of TUE Cs”, posted on WADA’s website,should be used to assist in the application of these criteria in relation to particular medical conditions.

Even ISTUE says that ISTUE is not the complete and sole authority.

Can't show me where in the ISTUE it states that severe dehydration must be proven in order to secure a TUE....

See above ISTUE says that ISTUE is not complete and sole authority.

We both know that its in its own WADA code. You can ***** about it not being in ISTUE. It doesn't make it any less valid. You are arguing that WADA wrote that entire section for no reason. Its a ****** argument.

Let me put it to you even more clearly since you have the mental capacity of a bag of dust. The ISTUE clearly allows IV use if the athlete or medical practitioner can prove that it is justifiable.

And their statement on IV re-hydration does not. All WADA documentation is controlling not just the ISTUE no matter how much you wish otherwise.

[GTTofAK]

Destroyed again. Well at least in english.
He speaks pact@rdenese. There is no such thing as conjunctions or adjectives so expect more of the same from him.

Hey Travesty has learned to give a little more than 5 minutes before logging onto is new alt Dos to congratulate himself. Of course it took me making his ******ity apparent to him.

[travestyny]

Then that is the end of the argument. No other bold letters. No other /red /size. Thats it. You admit that there is a viable alternative. So Froid broke the rules.

hahahahaha. I'm going to add the word PREFERRED to your vocabulary list. Please look it up.

Where in the ISTUE does it say that this document is the sole authority on TUE?

Any other documentation for WADA on TUE's has just as much authority. Agian you are arguing that WADA researched a published this entire section on IV re-hydration complete with 13 references for absolutely no reason. You are arguing that this has absolutely no controlling authority what so ever. That is simply ******.



The question is not that. The question is does ALL WADA code not just that one form allow for IV use. The answer is no. It actually instructs that reader to refer to other WADA documents.



Even ISTUE says that ISTUE is not the complete and sole authority.



See above ISTUE says that ISTUE is not complete and sole authority.

We both know that its in its own WADA code. You can ***** about it not being in ISTUE. It doesn't make it any less valid. You are arguing that WADA wrote that entire section for no reason. Its a ****** argument.



And their statement on IV re-hydration does not. All WADA documentation is controlling not just the ISTUE no matter how much you wish otherwise.

JUST WHEN I THOUGHT YOU COULDN'T PROVE YOU WERE ANY BIGGER OF A MORON.

(Actually, I'm lying. I always knew you had it in you to prove that you are more of a moron.)


Are you trying to tell me that the information that is found in the "Ask the scientists" section of USADA's website is part of the documentation that provides authority over TUE's?

hahahaha. You are an absolute MORON.

1.0 Introduction and Scope
The International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions is a mandatory International Standard developed as part of the World Anti-Doping Program.
The purpose of the International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions is to establish (a) the conditions that must be satisfied in order for a The****utic Use Exemption (or TUE) to be granted, permitting the presence of a Prohibited Substance in an Athlete’s Sample or the Athlete’s Use or Attempted Use, Possession and/or Administration or Attempted Administration of a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method for the****utic reasons; (b) the responsibilities imposed on Anti-Doping Organizations in making and communicating TUE decisions; (c) the process for an Athlete to apply for a TUE; (d) the process for an Athlete to get a TUE granted by one Anti-Doping Organization recognized by another Anti-Doping Organization; (e) the process for WADA to review TUE decisions; and (f) the strict confidentiality provisions that apply to the TUE process.

And then there is this:

THE****UTIC USE EXEMPTIONS
TUE APPLICATION PROCESS

Athletes may have illnesses or conditions that require them to take particular medications.

If the medication an athlete is required to take to treat an illness or condition happens to fall under the Prohibited List, a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) may give that athlete the authorization to take the needed medicine.

The purpose of the International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions (ISTUE) is to ensure that the process of granting TUEs is harmonized across sports and countries.

MEDICAL INFORMATION TO SUPPORT THE DECISIONS OF TUECS

Medical Information to Support the Decisions of The****utic Use Exemption Committees (TUECs) have been developed as part of the World Anti-Doping Program. It is based on the World Anti-Doping Code (Code) and on the International Standard for TUE (ISTUE).


Now let's see what is stated before the medical information documents collection are introduced!

This information should be read in conjunction with the principles set out in the ISTUEregarding the granting criteria for TUEs (Article 4.1 to 4.3). The objective is to guide and assist TUECs in the decision making process for TUE applications and are not mandatory documents.

These documents are "living documents” and will be updated as necessary based on the evolution of medical best practice. Pathologies covered at this stage are the most current ones encountered in the TUE field. This is not an exclusive list and TUEs for any other medical condition may be considered based on the principles of the ISTUE.

So not only your information found in the "ask a doctor" section doesn't apply to the granting of TUEs, but even the medical information documents collection is not mandatory.

You make this too ****ing easy. Just log off!!!!!!!!

[travestyny]

Hey Travesty has learned to give a little more than 5 minutes before logging onto is new alt Dos to congratulate himself. Of course it took me making his ******ity apparent to him.

ahhahahahahahahahaha. Clowned yourself again. LEARN HOW TO ****ING READ!!!!!

[travestyny]

Comment to 4.1: The WADA documents titled “Medical Information to Support the Decisions of TUE Cs”, posted on WADA’s website,should be used to assist in the application of these criteria in relation to particular medical conditions.

Even ISTUE says that ISTUE is not the complete and sole authority.

See above ISTUE says that ISTUE is not complete and sole authority.

The objective is to guide and assist TUECs in the decision making process for TUE applications and are not mandatory documents.
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/what-we-...use-exemptions

[Zaroku]

Hey Travesty has learned to give a little more than 5 minutes before logging onto is new alt Dos to congratulate himself. Of course it took me making his ******ity apparent to him.

I think they are two guys. Refute them with your best Kung Fu!!

I think that is what Manny would want you to do.

We cool right???

Just facts... Not insults!!

Thank you.

[Zaroku]

hahahahaha. I'm going to add the word PREFERRED to your vocabulary list. Please look it up.




JUST WHEN I THOUGHT YOU COULDN'T PROVE YOU WERE ANY BIGGER OF A MORON.

(Actually, I'm lying. I always knew you had it in you to prove that you are more of a moron.)


Are you trying to tell me that the information that is found in the "Ask the scientists" section of USADA's website is part of the documentation that provides authority over TUE's?

hahahaha. You are an absolute MORON.

1.0 Introduction and Scope
The International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions is a mandatory International Standard developed as part of the World Anti-Doping Program.
The purpose of the International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions is to establish (a) the conditions that must be satisfied in order for a The****utic Use Exemption (or TUE) to be granted, permitting the presence of a Prohibited Substance in an Athlete’s Sample or the Athlete’s Use or Attempted Use, Possession and/or Administration or Attempted Administration of a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method for the****utic reasons; (b) the responsibilities imposed on Anti-Doping Organizations in making and communicating TUE decisions; (c) the process for an Athlete to apply for a TUE; (d) the process for an Athlete to get a TUE granted by one Anti-Doping Organization recognized by another Anti-Doping Organization; (e) the process for WADA to review TUE decisions; and (f) the strict confidentiality provisions that apply to the TUE process.

And then there is this:

THE****UTIC USE EXEMPTIONS
TUE APPLICATION PROCESS

Athletes may have illnesses or conditions that require them to take particular medications.

If the medication an athlete is required to take to treat an illness or condition happens to fall under the Prohibited List, a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) may give that athlete the authorization to take the needed medicine.

The purpose of the International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions (ISTUE) is to ensure that the process of granting TUEs is harmonized across sports and countries.

MEDICAL INFORMATION TO SUPPORT THE DECISIONS OF TUECS

Medical Information to Support the Decisions of The****utic Use Exemption Committees (TUECs) have been developed as part of the World Anti-Doping Program. It is based on the World Anti-Doping Code (Code) and on the International Standard for TUE (ISTUE).


Now let's see what is stated before the medical information documents collection are introduced!

This information should be read in conjunction with the principles set out in the ISTUEregarding the granting criteria for TUEs (Article 4.1 to 4.3). The objective is to guide and assist TUECs in the decision making process for TUE applications and are not mandatory documents.

These documents are "living documents” and will be updated as necessary based on the evolution of medical best practice. Pathologies covered at this stage are the most current ones encountered in the TUE field. This is not an exclusive list and TUEs for any other medical condition may be considered based on the principles of the ISTUE.

So not only your information found in the "ask a doctor" section doesn't apply to the granting of TUEs, but even the medical information documents collection is not mandatory.

You make this too ****ing easy. Just log off!!!!!!!!

Too much red! Underline is fine for me! Best regards, Zaroku!