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  • Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
    Why do people try and bring up the Benitez fight like it was some nip and tuck contest, it wasn't. Hearns won lopsided, the draw scorecard was awful, you could give Benitez 4 maybe 5 rounds and even then those rounds were close. Hearns peppered him with the jab all fight, countered him with left hooks, hurt him on multiple occasions with the right hand, dropped him legitimately. It was a one sided fight. Did Hearns at times struggle to land they he wanted to? Absolutely, Benitez is a HOF'er and one of the best defensive fighters of all time. But the only punch he had any kind of success with is the lead right hand, and even then his success was limited.

    I find it funny that some of you are actually using this as a blue print for Floyd, when I see it as the total opposite, this is how I expect Floyd to be beaten, with a few tweaks. Floyd is a little faster and a little better defensively, but not enough to make a difference. Even though he has a slightly better reach than Benitez, he was 2 inches shorter. Hearns was just too tall, too good, and too athletic to give Floyd any kind of chance. He had Benitez in total control during this contest, he was never in danger of losing at all, and of course he found it difficult to nail Benitez at times. You have to remember Benitez carried pretty good power himself, so the threat of that power meant that Hearn's didn't need to take unnecessary risks just to put more of a beating on Benitez, even though he did put it on him at times and exchanged at times.

    I can't see how anyone watching this fight could first have the fight close, and second not see how comfortable Hearns was in there, he stuck to the gameplan and made the fight look easy for the most part.

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    • Originally posted by sunny31 View Post
      Why do people try and bring up the Benitez fight like it was some nip and tuck contest, it wasn't. Hearns won lopsided, the draw scorecard was awful, you could give Benitez 4 maybe 5 rounds and even then those rounds were close. Hearns peppered him with the jab all fight, countered him with left hooks, hurt him on multiple occasions with the right hand, dropped him legitimately. It was a one sided fight. Did Hearns at times struggle to land they he wanted to? Absolutely, Benitez is a HOF'er and one of the best defensive fighters of all time. But the only punch he had any kind of success with is the lead right hand, and even then his success was limited.

      I find it funny that some of you are actually using this as a blue print for Floyd, when I see it as the total opposite, this is how I expect Floyd to be beaten, with a few tweaks. Floyd is a little faster and a little better defensively, but not enough to make a difference. Even though he has a slightly better reach than Benitez, he was 2 inches shorter. Hearns was just too tall, too good, and too athletic to give Floyd any kind of chance. He had Benitez in total control during this contest, he was never in danger of losing at all, and of course he found it difficult to nail Benitez at times. You have to remember Benitez carried pretty good power himself, so the threat of that power meant that Hearn's didn't need to take unnecessary risks just to put more of a beating on Benitez, even though he did put it on him at times and exchanged at times.

      I can't see how anyone watching this fight could first have the fight close, and second not see how comfortable Hearns was in there, he stuck to the gameplan and made the fight look easy for the most part.
      Good post. Couldn't understand why people were bringing up the Benitez fight either as it seems more like evidence against Floyd than for him.

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      • Comparing Benitez fight with Hearns, to a fantasy fight between PBF vs Hearns, isnt a good analogy. Yes Benitez and PBF were both defensive fighters but, Benitez had much better head movement. He didnt lay on the ropes and just lean back and smother shots like Floyd. This is why most people including myself think that Hearns would win and win in brutal fashion. Hearns is one of he hardest p4p punchers ever, Floyd would get hit with something eventually, because Hearns throws lethal combinations, 4-5-6 punch combos. PBF with his 1-2 punch combos and 1-2 punch counters..wont be enough.

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        • I'd never completely rule Floyd out, but odds are he'd get rekt.

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          • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
            Fantasy fights always take for granted that the very best version always turns up , real life is not like that and thats why fantasy fights are a crock of sht that are more about fans likes and dislikes than anything else .

            I feel Tommy would get the win on size as Ive stated but looking through his fight videos I would bet good money Floyd would beat this Hearns if thats what turned up .

            Watch all of this fight and then note Olajide is no where near as slick as Mayweather , I dont think a fight with Floyd is as one sided for Tommy as you guy like to put out .

            I don't see the relevance here.

            Styles make fights.

            This was about 10 years after Tommy had fought at WW.

            It was at SMW.

            His opponent was over 6ft, with a huge reach.

            Of course he wasn't going to look as slick, fighting 3 divisions higher against a big guy.

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            • Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
              I'd never completely rule Floyd out, but odds are he'd get rekt.
              *Cough* Fanboy *Cough*

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              • Originally posted by onetwopunch View Post
                Comparing Benitez fight with Hearns, to a fantasy fight between PBF vs Hearns, isnt a good analogy. Yes Benitez and PBF were both defensive fighters but, Benitez had much better head movement. He didnt lay on the ropes and just lean back and smother shots like Floyd. This is why most people including myself think that Hearns would win and win in brutal fashion. Hearns is one of he hardest p4p punchers ever, Floyd would get hit with something eventually, because Hearns throws lethal combinations, 4-5-6 punch combos. PBF with his 1-2 punch combos and 1-2 punch counters..wont be enough.
                I don't see Mayweather getting KO'ed. And he had pretty good bead movement in his prime. Better than pretty good. But moving his head is about all he'd be doing while he struggled to get inside. Hearns is too much at 147 for him.

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                • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  I don't see Mayweather getting KO'ed. And he had pretty good bead movement in his prime. Better than pretty good. But moving his head is about all he'd be doing while he struggled to get inside. Hearns is too much at 147 for him.
                  So you think Floyd would be able to take a shot from Hearns? he would have to step into Hearns wheel house eventually. I keep saying this fight wont even be fair. And Hearns was a great boxer not just a hard puncher.

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                  • Originally posted by onetwopunch View Post
                    So you think Floyd would be able to take a shot from Hearns? he would have to step into Hearns wheel house eventually. I keep saying this fight wont even be fair. And Hearns was a great boxer not just a hard puncher.
                    I think he might be able to withstand one maybe two. I think you're underrating his intelligence and chin a bit. But trying to avoid those missles, get out of the way of the jab and try to hit a moving target seemingly standing halfway across the ring is why he'd lose decisively.

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                    • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      I think he might be able to withstand one maybe two. I think you're underrating his intelligence and chin a bit. But trying to avoid those missles, get out of the way of the jab and try to hit a moving target seemingly standing halfway across the ring is why he'd lose decisively.
                      - Agreed, I know PBF is one of the top defensive fighters ever..easily top 5, he is there with Sweet Pea,Pep,and Benitez in my book. But he has never faced a guy like Hearns. Bad analogy but look at what he did to Duran..a guy who was a killer at light weight..Hearn ran right through him. Those straight right hands from Hearns....were no joke.

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