How is a guy who has one 12 round fight & one 10 round fight worthy of a fight w AW?

[Rudiamonds]

barrera is not top 10 and i'm guessing you forgot when everyone said ggg was a ducker for trying to fight froch who was #1 at the time in his first fight at 168. if only those ward fans met these ward fans. even thoguh they are the same people lets see if we can arrange a meeting.

Na ward was always #1 at 168 ..you know the guy that schooled froch with one arm the same guy that had to come to 164 to fight "the boogie man" doe

[Pigeons]

Barrera is the #7 LHW according to ESPN.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...ht-heavyweight

[daggum]

Na ward was always #1 at 168 ..you know the guy that schooled froch with one arm the same guy that had to come to 164 to fight "the boogie man" doe

no he wasn't. he was removed from the rankings for not fighting. are you saying if he didn't fight for 20 years he would still be #1 at 168? sorry sports don't work that way. you have to constantly prove you are the best. you can't rest on your laurels. froch proved he was the best at that time. ward in the time before that. that's the way sports works. if the patriots didn't play this season they couldn't say we are the superbowl champs! yea some clowns from new england might beleive that crap but the rest of the world would be like nah dudes you didn't play therefore you aren't champs anymore. ward didn't play therefore he wasn't champ anymore. blame ward.

[Kagami Taiga]

I find it funny that people compare those two fights. Sullivan Barrera is for all intents and purposes a top 10 lhw. Dominic Wade doesn't even belong in the top 20. But i guess whatever you need to do to make yourselves feel better, huh?

[techliam]

Barrera is the #7 LHW according to ESPN.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...ht-heavyweight

Don't you usually defer to TBRB rankings, Pigeons? Why not this time?

[techliam]

I find it funny that people compare those two fights. Sullivan Barrera is for all intents and purposes a top 10 lhw. Dominic Wade doesn't even belong in the top 20. But i guess whatever you need to do to make yourselves feel better, huh?

Funnily enough, neither RING or TBRB rank Barrera in the top 10

TBRB rank Wade 10, at the very least. They are comparable because they are equally as bad fights.

[KeyboardWarrior]

no he wasn't. he was removed from the rankings for not fighting. are you saying if he didn't fight for 20 years he would still be #1 at 168? sorry sports doesn't work that way. you have to constantly prove you are the best. you can't rest on your laurels. froch proved he was the best at that time. ward in the time before that. that's the way sports works. if the patriots didn't play this season they couldn't say we are the superbowl champs! yea some clowns from new england might beleive that crap but the rest of the world would be like nah dudes you didn't play therefore you aren't champs anymore. ward didn't play therefore he wasn't champ anymore. blame ward.

Exactly. Consistency will keep a fighter on top. If you are the lineal title holder you best stick to fighting the best because that's what got you there.

[Pigeons]

Don't you usually defer to TBRB rankings, Pigeons? Why not this time?

I refer to the rankings that support my position.



You got me buddy, good for you.

[Kagami Taiga]

Funnily enough, neither RING or TBRB rank Barrera in the top 10

TBRB rank Wade 10, at the very least. They are comparable because they are equally as bad fights.

Yea but hes rated by all the sanctioning bodies minus the IBF and hes rated on ESPN, he was the legit contender to Kovalev's belt. His resume is comparable to half the list of top Light Heavys and hes no young buck. He's a Cuban import, meaning he's more advanced than some of the other fighters out there. Comparing him to Dominic Wade in a vaccum of information is quite weak. And thats clearly what you are doing, which makes little sense.

[-PBP-]

GGG-Wade and Ward-Barrera are similar level fights. You criticise the GGG fanboys trashing this fight, but seem a little quiet on people trashing Wade but supporting this.

It's simple. I don't know who Andre Ward is right now. He hasn't fought a real opponent since 2013, has never fought at the full 175 limit, and has been through several injuries over the past several years. You're basing this matchup under the assumption that he is the guy that dominated Carl Froch. Shame on Ward for his inactivity and diva attitude but that's the situation as it stands.

A big issue with layoffs is punch resistance. He hasn't had a fight without headgear against a real fighter since 2013. We can actually learn something about where Andre Ward is at right now and what type of run he can have at 175. Anticipation.

Golovkin, is an active champion, a top 3 pound for pound fighter, with little left to accomplish at MW who is sticking around in hopes of getting that marquee PPV matchup with Canelo. OK, he wants to unify the belts. If he played his card, he could have had the WBC belt long ago but those step aside dollars are pretty nice. Can't blame him.

While waiting for this opportunity, he has wasted 2 of his last 3 fights on prospects who have never fought scheduled 12 rounders. Never fought in any title eliminators. If Dominic Wade is ranked 10 by anyone it's because of lack of alternatives. He looked terrible in his last fight and arguably lost. We don't learn anything about Golovkin in this fight. No anticipation.

Now let's look at the matchups themselves

Barrera has a size, height, reach and power advantage over Ward. Can Ward physically impose his strength on a bigger fighter? If not, how will his style change at 175? I live in Miami and have been following Barrera since just about he turned pro. I always thought he was a decent prospect. Might be too big a step up for him here but if there is ever a time to sneak up on Andre Ward, now is it.

Wade has no advantages over Golovkin. Wade is flat footed, stands straight up, has a bad habit of dropping his right hand when throwing his left, chin in the air, and gets hit with **** like this:



I know a little about Dominic. He grew up 5 minutes from my Uncle's house in PG County Maryland and I know some dudes that trained with him. People I talk to think he's in over his head. But hey, maybe he has just been fighting down to his level of opposition and the best will come out of him in April. We shall see.