Roy Jones retires!!!

[therealpugilist]

NONE of them could beat a PRIME Roy i am convinced of ESP the 160-168lb version of ROY

the old heads may see as boxing blasphemy but he kicks all there ass at 154-168....175 the fights would be more competitive because they had 10-15 pounds on him and he lost his one punch power...he remained a good puncher.....made up for it with accuracy and ring generalship...he is the only fight I saw go fights without losing rounds vs world class fighters

[BlackSoul]

Ive watched ezzard charles, archie moore, matthew saad muhammad almost every great fighter who there is film on from 154-175...I wouldnt favor anyone over a prime roy jones....he had it all

ppl try to criticize Roy and say he fought off his Athletics well NO ****.
if you had speed, power, footwork, head movement, lead right, lead LEFT HOOK and dont even have to use a JAB and could KO you at ANY moment in time if he landed flush, the fighter would have to keep his hands home bc if he tried to mount an offense he would be at risk of bein' countered and hurt he was THAT devastating.
think of some of the fastest fighters at lower weights than him he was faster than damn near ALL of them except a few.
faster than mayweather
pacquiao
bradley
shane mosley
etc etc you can name all the big names at lower weights and he's bigger than them and was FASTER than them AND he could KNOCK YOUR ASS OUT IF YOU GOT TOO OVERCONFIDENT AT TRYIN' TO MOUNT AN OFFENSE

[BlackSoul]

the old heads may see as boxing blasphemy but he kicks all there ass at 154-168....175 the fights would be more competitive because they had 10-15 pounds on him and he lost his one punch power...he remained a good puncher.....made up for it with accuracy and ring generalship...he is the only fight I saw go fights without losing rounds vs world class fighters

nobody can say with confidence that ANY fighter from ANY era would fare against PRIME ROY. as good as andre ward is technically, i say he gets UD'd by Prime Roy its like imagine the best trait a fighter has and then imagine them in the ring with roy he had an advantage over damn near EVERY fighter you can imagine. imagine if folks of this generation had a ROY JONES JR at 154(which at his smallest he was at 152) and you had a PRIME mayweather, pacquiao, mosley, de la hoya, trinidad, hagler, leonard,hearns, duran, benitez, body snatcher, sugar ray robinson, hopkins, toney, mcclellan, eubanks, benn,vargas, nunn, calzaghe, etc etc there is NONE of these that would be betting favorites to beat roy jones much less make it through a 12 round fight without knockdowns or gettin' stopped.
he was just a damn FREAK OF NATURE once in a CENTURY type of fighter.
the ONLY fighter i can compare to him is PRIME Muhammad Ali BEFORE 1967 and the ban

[BrometheusBob.]

I hope so. He really needs to. On a somewhat related note, now who will GGG fight after Bhop?

What does Roy Jones have to do with BHops?

I like how going into the Kovalev fight people were acting like BHops was the man and he was gonna expose Kov but now after that single loss he is being compared with Roy Jones. He was a unified champ going into his last fight, but now he is a bum. My how quickly things change.

I don't buy this act. I'd be putting my money on Hopkins over GGG. Honestly, I'd be a bit impressed but not overwhelmed with GGG if he beat BHops with the ease that Kovalev did. [He would still take a beating from Ward doe.]

[therealpugilist]

ppl try to criticize Roy and say he fought off his Athletics well NO ****.
if you had speed, power, footwork, head movement, lead right, lead LEFT HOOK and dont even have to use a JAB and could KO you at ANY moment in time if he landed flush, the fighter would have to keep his hands home bc if he tried to mount an offense he would be at risk of bein' countered and hurt he was THAT devastating.
think of some of the fastest fighters at lower weights than him he was faster than damn near ALL of them except a few.
faster than mayweather
pacquiao
bradley
shane mosley
etc etc you can name all the big names at lower weights and he's bigger than them and was FASTER than them AND he could KNOCK YOUR ASS OUT IF YOU GOT TOO OVERCONFIDENT AT TRYIN' TO MOUNT AN OFFENSE

people look at the aesthetic things...speed, power etc...you cant measure brain power and whenever you hear him commentate or talk about strategy he is usually spot on



He had god given talent and based what he did on the ring off inches, millseconds, etc because of his reflexes


you have to be a complete idiot if you think he just depended on his natural athleticism


anybody can learn the skills the box, its having the where with all to know when to use them


little small things he did like, who throws a lead/check right....he is smart enough to know it takes less time to pull back and roll away and when from a punch instead of being a sitting duck


He had every punch at his disposal...that takes skill


he knew when to parry, slip, shoulder roll, block and was always in position to defend and counter with good balance...thats skill


if you watch him closely, he anticpates every thing...where the opponents hand will be when he feints, the footing, what they will throw when he lands a shot how they will counter, etc.


he had every tool at his expense and knew how to use them based on his natural gifts

once the gifts fade you're not going to be able to do the same thing no matter how you try


most people dont know **** about boxing

[therealpugilist]

nobody can say with confidence that ANY fighter from ANY era would fare against PRIME ROY. as good as andre ward is technically, i say he gets UD'd by Prime Roy its like imagine the best trait a fighter has and then imagine them in the ring with roy he had an advantage over damn near EVERY fighter you can imagine. imagine if folks of this generation had a ROY JONES JR at 154(which at his smallest he was at 152) and you had a PRIME mayweather, pacquiao, mosley, de la hoya, trinidad, hagler, leonard,hearns, duran, benitez, body snatcher, sugar ray robinson, hopkins, toney, mcclellan, eubanks, benn,vargas, nunn, calzaghe, etc etc there is NONE of these that would be betting favorites to beat roy jones much less make it through a 12 round fight without knockdowns or gettin' stopped.
he was just a damn FREAK OF NATURE once in a CENTURY type of fighter.
the ONLY fighter i can compare to him is PRIME Muhammad Ali BEFORE 1967 and the ban

roy is the definition of a once in a lifetime talent


none of them guys would beat jones and manny you named are ATG in their own right, hall of famers and world champions

[The Big Dunn]

What does Roy Jones have to do with BHops?

I like how going into the Kovalev fight people were acting like BHops was the man and he was gonna expose Kov but now after that single loss he is being compared with Roy Jones. He was a unified champ going into his last fight, but now he is a bum. My how quickly things change.

I don't buy this act. I'd be putting my money on Hopkins over GGG. Honestly, I'd be a bit impressed but not overwhelmed with GGG if he beat BHops with the ease that Kovalev did. [He would still take a beating from Ward doe.]

1. He's over 50 and hasn't fought since KOv.
2. People often change their opinion with more info. Example Erik Morales before and after Zahir Raheem.
3. he fought kov at 175, this fight is rumored to be at 168, which bhop hasn't fought at sin a long time
4. It would be before the Canelo/GGG fight-no way GGG fights a live body before that fight.
5. You probably took the post too seriously?

[BlackSoul]

roy is the definition of a once in a lifetime talent


none of them guys would beat jones and manny you named are ATG in their own right, hall of famers and world champions

NONE the only ones i can see that could challenge Roy is the BIG BOYS and we all know who they are and thats speaks to his GREATNESS

[BrometheusBob.]

1. He's over 50 and hasn't fought since KOv.
2. People often change their opinion with more info. Example Erik Morales before and after Zahir Raheem.
3. he fought kov at 175, this fight is rumored to be at 168, which bhop hasn't fought at sin a long time
4. It would be before the Canelo/GGG fight-no way GGG fights a live body before that fight.
5. You probably took the post too seriously?

1) True, but I think even the BHop that lost to Kov would be a big problem for GGG, and that BHop was no spring chicken either. Obviously for most fighters being 50+ would make them totally irrelevant but BHop isn't most fighters.
2) We've already discussed Morales/Raheem, so you already know that I don't think Morales was as bad off afterwards as you do. Nor do I think Kov exposed any real weakness of Hopkins, he's just a genuine quality much younger champion.
3) True dat.
4) Hey now, GGG is taking on Dominic Wade, who debatably beat 40+ year old Sam Soliman. He's taking on a big risk here.
5) lol shrug

[mann187]

If its true then enjoy retirement Roy, this guy would have given anyone hell H2H at 160-175. Great athletically gifted fighter, great boxing IQ and analyst.

Never forget watching him as a teen on sky sports, time to hang them up and stay on the broadcast team roy!