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Manny Pacquaio vs Juan Manuel Marquez 3 Appreciation thread: Did JMM get robbed?
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pac clearly won the last 2 unless you go insane and somehow give any of them to marquez so you are going to have a 116-114 scorecard and claim robbery lol. i had a guy winning by 2 points in a fight with a ton of close rounds robbery!
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View PostROUND 10 too damn close.....even
98-94 jmm
effective aggression
final score card 117-113
some rounds were very close....if I give manny the close rounds I scored 10-10 He still wouldve have lost by 2 points....there are 4-5 rounds that can arguably be scored even
Manny came on late in the fight and JMM kinda started to cruise. He let manny back in the fight
It wasnt a robbery in my book but I think Juan Manuel Marquez clearly won
I also had a second scorecard where I gave the even rounds to a definitive winner and the score was 116-114 Marquez
Manny Pacquaio didnt win this fight...because of the close rounds, depending on how it was scored the closest it could be is a draw but even that is reaching
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Postrounds 11 JMM and 12 go to Pac..he was busier and winning most of the exchanges
effective aggression
final score card 117-113
some rounds were very close....if I give manny the close rounds I scored 10-10 He still wouldve have lost by 2 points....there are 4-5 rounds that can arguably be scored even
Manny came on late in the fight and JMM kinda started to cruise. He let manny back in the fight
It wasnt a robbery in my book but I think Juan Manuel Marquez clearly won
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Originally posted by mann187 View Posti had it 8-4 or at a push 7-5 to Marquez
no way pacquiao won, he was controlled and countered all night, think it was first time Pacquiao tried to box with Marquez and didnt go too well imho.
Everytime i score it i can never give Pacquiao more than 5 rounds and I thought Marquez ring generalship showed that night.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postyou scored 2 even rounds. if you give them to manny it would have been a draw so how is that clearly winning? clearly winning is kovalev vs hopkins. he won in your mind ok thats fine but it obviously wasn't that clear if you are scoring even roudns.
Marquez clearly won....there were 4-5 close rounds but it depends on who scores them how they will go....JMM won his rounds on clean punching and ring generalship, Manny was busier and landed in clusters
the final talley was 117-113.....i gave manny the close rounds he still would have lost by 2 points
I had a second scorecard and Marquez won by 2 points
He lost this fight, he thought he lost this fight, and so did roach who was reminding him he was falling behind as early as round 7-8
it was a good fight but in no way did Manny win this fight
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Postthere were only 2 rounds I scored 10-10
Marquez clearly won....there were 4-5 close rounds but it depends on who scores them how they will go....JMM won his rounds on clean punching and ring generalship, Manny was busier and landed in clusters
the final talley was 117-113.....i gave manny the close rounds he still would have lost by 2 points
I had a second scorecard and Marquez won by 2 points
He lost this fight, he thought he lost this fight, and so did roach who was reminding him he was falling behind as early as round 7-8
it was a good fight but in no way did Manny win this fight
"marquez clearly won"
these 2 statements don't go together yet you just made them.
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Originally posted by daggum View Post"there were 5 even/swing rounds"
"marquez clearly won"
these 2 statements don't go together yet you just made them.
if you go through the thread I scored each round seperately and gave the reasons why
there were rounds that were not clearly won but the fight was clearly won...Marquez won by a noticeable margin..me pointing out that there were several close rounds doesnt change the fact that win scores were tallied, Marquez won on both my scorecards
the fight is 12 rounds....there were rounds close enough that one would have trouble scoring unless they WATCHED CLOSELY
No matter how you slice it, dice it, try to remix my words....There were close rounds....Marquez clearly won....DEAL WITH IT
Look at the other posts...i dont think I saw anyone score it for Manny at all
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
if you go through the thread I scored each round seperately and gave the reasons why
there were rounds that were not clearly won but the fight was clearly won...Marquez won by a noticeable margin..me pointing out that there were several close rounds doesnt change the fact that win scores were tallied, Marquez won on both my scorecards
the fight is 12 rounds....there were rounds close enough that one would have trouble scoring unless they WATCHED CLOSELY
No matter how you slice it, dice it, try to remix my words....There were close rounds....Marquez clearly won....DEAL WITH IT
Look at the other posts...i dont think I saw anyone score it for Manny at all
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Originally posted by daggum View Postmarquez won on both your scorecards? i'm shocked! pac won on 3 of my scorecards so i guess he really really won!
I cant see manny winning this fight, each round I gave to each fighter is explained
Sorry man, Im not one of those posters who rides with one fighter or the other, I just score the fights. I dont gain anything or add to the forum being biased
I respect your opinion
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