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Manny Pacquaio vs Juan Manuel Marquez 3 Appreciation thread: Did JMM get robbed?

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  • #61
    Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post

    round 9 marquez: 10-9

    close round, he was getting to manny with those uppercut right hand combos...manny barely missed some good shots if they landed. ring generalship and defense the difference

    88-84 JMM
    ROUND 10 too damn close.....even

    98-94 jmm

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    • #62
      pac clearly won the last 2 unless you go insane and somehow give any of them to marquez so you are going to have a 116-114 scorecard and claim robbery lol. i had a guy winning by 2 points in a fight with a ton of close rounds robbery!

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      • #63
        Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
        ROUND 10 too damn close.....even

        98-94 jmm
        rounds 11 JMM and 12 go to Pac..he was busier and winning most of the exchanges

        effective aggression

        final score card 117-113

        some rounds were very close....if I give manny the close rounds I scored 10-10 He still wouldve have lost by 2 points....there are 4-5 rounds that can arguably be scored even


        Manny came on late in the fight and JMM kinda started to cruise. He let manny back in the fight

        It wasnt a robbery in my book but I think Juan Manuel Marquez clearly won


        I also had a second scorecard where I gave the even rounds to a definitive winner and the score was 116-114 Marquez


        Manny Pacquaio didnt win this fight...because of the close rounds, depending on how it was scored the closest it could be is a draw but even that is reaching

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        • #64
          Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
          rounds 11 JMM and 12 go to Pac..he was busier and winning most of the exchanges

          effective aggression

          final score card 117-113

          some rounds were very close....if I give manny the close rounds I scored 10-10 He still wouldve have lost by 2 points....there are 4-5 rounds that can arguably be scored even


          Manny came on late in the fight and JMM kinda started to cruise. He let manny back in the fight

          It wasnt a robbery in my book but I think Juan Manuel Marquez clearly won
          you scored 2 even rounds. if you give them to manny it would have been a draw so how is that clearly winning? clearly winning is kovalev vs hopkins. he won in your mind ok thats fine but it obviously wasn't that clear if you are scoring even roudns.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by mann187 View Post
            i had it 8-4 or at a push 7-5 to Marquez

            no way pacquiao won, he was controlled and countered all night, think it was first time Pacquiao tried to box with Marquez and didnt go too well imho.

            Everytime i score it i can never give Pacquiao more than 5 rounds and I thought Marquez ring generalship showed that night.
            about the way I saw it....scoring it live I had it 7-5.....this time it was a little wider....the competitiveness of 4-5 rounds could really swing the scores though

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            • #66
              Originally posted by daggum View Post
              you scored 2 even rounds. if you give them to manny it would have been a draw so how is that clearly winning? clearly winning is kovalev vs hopkins. he won in your mind ok thats fine but it obviously wasn't that clear if you are scoring even roudns.
              there were only 2 rounds I scored 10-10


              Marquez clearly won....there were 4-5 close rounds but it depends on who scores them how they will go....JMM won his rounds on clean punching and ring generalship, Manny was busier and landed in clusters

              the final talley was 117-113.....i gave manny the close rounds he still would have lost by 2 points

              I had a second scorecard and Marquez won by 2 points


              He lost this fight, he thought he lost this fight, and so did roach who was reminding him he was falling behind as early as round 7-8


              it was a good fight but in no way did Manny win this fight

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              • #67
                Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                there were only 2 rounds I scored 10-10


                Marquez clearly won....there were 4-5 close rounds but it depends on who scores them how they will go....JMM won his rounds on clean punching and ring generalship, Manny was busier and landed in clusters

                the final talley was 117-113.....i gave manny the close rounds he still would have lost by 2 points

                I had a second scorecard and Marquez won by 2 points


                He lost this fight, he thought he lost this fight, and so did roach who was reminding him he was falling behind as early as round 7-8


                it was a good fight but in no way did Manny win this fight
                "there were 5 even/swing rounds"

                "marquez clearly won"

                these 2 statements don't go together yet you just made them.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by daggum View Post
                  "there were 5 even/swing rounds"

                  "marquez clearly won"

                  these 2 statements don't go together yet you just made them.


                  if you go through the thread I scored each round seperately and gave the reasons why

                  there were rounds that were not clearly won but the fight was clearly won...Marquez won by a noticeable margin..me pointing out that there were several close rounds doesnt change the fact that win scores were tallied, Marquez won on both my scorecards

                  the fight is 12 rounds....there were rounds close enough that one would have trouble scoring unless they WATCHED CLOSELY

                  No matter how you slice it, dice it, try to remix my words....There were close rounds....Marquez clearly won....DEAL WITH IT


                  Look at the other posts...i dont think I saw anyone score it for Manny at all


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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post

                    if you go through the thread I scored each round seperately and gave the reasons why

                    there were rounds that were not clearly won but the fight was clearly won...Marquez won by a noticeable margin..me pointing out that there were several close rounds doesnt change the fact that win scores were tallied, Marquez won on both my scorecards

                    the fight is 12 rounds....there were rounds close enough that one would have trouble scoring unless they WATCHED CLOSELY

                    No matter how you slice it, dice it, try to remix my words....There were close rounds....Marquez clearly won....DEAL WITH IT


                    Look at the other posts...i dont think I saw anyone score it for Manny at all


                    marquez won on both your scorecards? i'm shocked! pac won on 3 of my scorecards so i guess he really really won!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by daggum View Post
                      marquez won on both your scorecards? i'm shocked! pac won on 3 of my scorecards so i guess he really really won!
                      kinda was the point of the thread to compare scorecards....not bicker

                      I cant see manny winning this fight, each round I gave to each fighter is explained


                      Sorry man, Im not one of those posters who rides with one fighter or the other, I just score the fights. I dont gain anything or add to the forum being biased

                      I respect your opinion

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