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  • Ray Corso
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    #71
    Robinson would KO Floyd inside of 5 rds. Mayweather has NO power to hold off Robinson and Robinson has power in both hands! It's not close and Floyds so called great defense works against fighters with C+ to B- offenses. Whjat happens when TBE boxer/puncher starts in on him? If Maidana's chop right hand bothered Floyd what's Robinson's right hands going to accomplish?

    Mayweather isn't a top ten welter and he would struggle against any top ten lightweight or junior welter. At 130 he could fare well in with that groups top fifteen. Because he's done well against "his" opponents doesn't mean he does well against the top tier talents in boxings history.

    Sugar Ray beats him up and theres plenty of film to see how and why!

    Ray

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      #72
      Originally posted by freedom..
      Do ya'll have to report every damn thing he says?
      Like I said in the other thread, people can't let go of Floyd - despite certain haters saying "nobody cares anymore" - clearly people do.

      Wilder/Fury in-ring and Khanelo announcements were the closest we got to "moving on". But here we are again.

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      • MisterPullman
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        #73
        Originally posted by Ray Corso
        Robinson would KO Floyd inside of 5 rds. Mayweather has NO power to hold off Robinson and Robinson has power in both hands! It's not close and Floyds so called great defense works against fighters with C+ to B- offenses. Whjat happens when TBE boxer/puncher starts in on him? If Maidana's chop right hand bothered Floyd what's Robinson's right hands going to accomplish?

        Mayweather isn't a top ten welter and he would struggle against any top ten lightweight or junior welter. At 130 he could fare well in with that groups top fifteen. Because he's done well against "his" opponents doesn't mean he does well against the top tier talents in boxings history.

        Sugar Ray beats him up and theres plenty of film to see how and why!

        Ray
        Robinson was a brotha and I rspect that but in no way he beat floyd

        Floyd would toy with his vintage punk ass

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          #74
          Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
          Yeah, because you won't say "who has GGG beaten anyway?" when Floyd schools him right?

          Lol, we've seen this con too many times, don't work no more.
          I can say who has canelo beaten? Who did canelo stop that made Floyd think canelo could stop him, and ask for a cw? Who did canelo outpoint that made Floyd think canelo could outpoint him? Nobody! I can't do that with GGG as he stops middleweights for a living, Floyd has yet to fight one. Nelo couldn't even stop SSM so that's why Floyd dared fight nelo. Floyd always let's others test the water for him.

          Originally posted by Ray Corso
          Robinson would KO Floyd inside of 5 rds. Mayweather has NO power to hold off Robinson and Robinson has power in both hands! It's not close and Floyds so called great defense works against fighters with C+ to B- offenses. Whjat happens when TBE boxer/puncher starts in on him? If Maidana's chop right hand bothered Floyd what's Robinson's right hands going to accomplish?

          Mayweather isn't a top ten welter and he would struggle against any top ten lightweight or junior welter. At 130 he could fare well in with that groups top fifteen. Because he's done well against "his" opponents doesn't mean he does well against the top tier talents in boxings history.

          Sugar Ray beats him up and theres plenty of film to see how and why!

          Ray
          Many people would stop Floyd now but he won't fight those guys. He's been outpointed twice at least as well.
          The judges were very kind to Floyd for some reason?
          Last edited by hugh grant; 02-08-2016, 05:47 PM.

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          • Ray Corso
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            #75
            lil' larryXS......."Floyd would toy with his vintage punk ass".................

            referencing Sugar Ray as a "punk ass" says everything I need to know about you!

            lil' Floyd would never fight a man like Robinson to begin with.
            Robinson ran two streaks of 80-0 so lil' Floyds 49-0 is pretty weak.

            When there was two federations and you were the champion you fought ALL the contenders before you picked who you'd fight.
            Robinson didn't set up camp like lil' Floyd did in Vegas where he was the
            promotion, manager, matchmaker, boxer and pizza salesmen!

            Floyd isn't a top ten welter all time so beating TBE wouldn't happen, he's a little to small to deal with Robinson. Did Floyd ever fight a legit welter?
            Maybe Canelo was at least at 154 but he was 12 years old when he signed for lil' Floyd wasn't he? Berto? damn Berto hahaha pathetic.......Hatton? 140
            Guerrero 135/140 Cotto 140...Marquez 140....
            Then there was Oscar, Mosley and the rest of the "over the hill gang"!

            If you fanboys think lil' Floyd is a big man that's fine but were not talking about some old time champion who doesn't have any film showing his skills.
            Theres plenty of Robinson on film all you need is some basic knowledge of the sport to realize how he would dominate the lil' guy!
            He would terrify Mayweather and destroy him. Two different levels of talents and two different mental approaches to fighting. There's nothing mean and tough about Floyd, Robinson actually enjoyed beating men up!
            You should read about the man to get an understanding of his state of mind.
            Mayweathers methodology is to survive and counter score and counter move. Robinson figured out in a few rounds if he could knock you out or beat you up.
            nite kids...........
            Ray

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              #76
              TB duck E............

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                #77
                Originally posted by fanofslug
                "He would have and would never have" Stop talking about the past. Mayweather beat the best in his era, and did it with grace and flawless boxing that was and will never be seen in the ring again. That's why he is TBE. It's futile to argue otherwise. Please just stop and get a job. Pacquiao won't pay your bills.
                The past only comes up when Floyd starts pounding his chest he's the best ever. He's illiterate, has no idea who paved the way before him nor does he care. He's that Blessed Trinity: Me, Myself & I. He's delusional, can't read, can't stand not having the attention on him. He was always very strategic WHO he fought and WHEN he fought them so to collect a lot of "names" on his resume for his own profiling and the market "0". He was only about the money. You're just as illiterate as he is.

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                • TLC8
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Mzembe
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                  Your is probably the best read I've read on this forum ever since I joined. I don't disagree with your assessment one bit, however I have to differ on the Pacman and Cotto fights if they had happened earlier.

                  When Floyd moved up to 140Ibs and annihilated Gatti he did call out Cotto and Hatton (the two big names and title holders at that division at the time). They both refused saying that they weren't ready for Floyd. At the time Cotto was trained by his uncle Evangelista and it is on record that he refused the fight. You can google this fact.

                  How can two undefeated fighters be scared of fighting a guy coming from a weight class below them? That's just fear and you and I know what fear does in boxing. Take a look at Roy Jones after his brutal KO at the hands of Tarver.

                  In 2007 Cotto did call out Floyd several times and that fight didn't happen for whatever reason one wants to believe although you and I know it's because of Arum who promoted Cotto at the time. Regardless, the fight would have been very competitive but Floyd would still have beaten Cotto.

                  As for Pacman, I just disagree completely. Pacman couldn't beat Marquez at any weight class and Marquez is an inferior version of Floyd when it comes to counter punching. Most of the big guys that Pac pulverized were forced to fight at a very drained weight (Oscar, Cotto, Margarito even Algieri) so the idea of Pacman beating Floyd is just that, an idea. It would never happen.
                  Back to now, if Pac was to fight Cotto or Canelo at 154 he would get destroyed so that tells you that.

                  Good read anyway on your article.
                  U just make this stuff up as u go along???

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                  • TLC8
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by LarryXXX
                    Robinson was a brotha and I rspect that but in no way he beat floyd

                    Floyd would toy with his vintage punk ass
                    Dude ur as illiterate as Floyd is. You apparently know nothing have seen nothing of the legends before Floyds era.

                    Robinson's skill set was so above and beyond Floyds, Mayweather would hold and complain in fear to the referee before getting knocked out before the halfway point in a fight.

                    Ray Leonard had faster hands than Floyd, hit MUCH harder than Floyd, had a lot more machismo & guts than Floyd, and one of the greatest finishers in Boxing history. Floyd had no shot to finish vertical against Leonard.

                    Tommy Hearns put that Mike Tyson fear in most guys before they climbed in the ring. He hit like a light heavyweight, and stalked guys down. Floyd would never step in the ring to start with. Floyd would never fight Paul Williams when he had the chance for being so tall and a ferocious KO artist, Tommy was 10x that.

                    Roberto Duran was a killer in the ring, you couldn't hurt him or intimidate him, in his prime he just kept coming, stole your heart and made u quit. He wouldn't let you out of the ring alive. He's another Floyd would never get in the ring with.

                    Wilfredo Benitez was s defensive genius, Floyds defense had nothing on Benitez. Plus he feared nobody. Floyd would get nothing done with him.

                    Aaron Pryor & Alexis Arguello would have cut the ring off on Floyd and with brutal body attacks, and big KO out power, would have both stopped Floyd.

                    Marvin Hagler, don't even go there. Floyd didn't have a big enough sack to fight a guy like Marvin at any weight.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by TLC8
                      Dude ur as illiterate as Floyd is. You apparently know nothing have seen nothing of the legends before Floyds era.

                      Robinson's skill set was so above and beyond Floyds, Mayweather would hold and complain in fear to the referee before getting knocked out before the halfway point in a fight.

                      Ray Leonard had faster hands than Floyd, hit MUCH harder than Floyd, had a lot more machismo & guts than Floyd, and one of the greatest finishers in Boxing history. Floyd had no shot to finish vertical against Leonard.

                      Tommy Hearns put that Mike Tyson fear in most guys before they climbed in the ring. He hit like a light heavyweight, and stalked guys down. Floyd would never step in the ring to start with. Floyd would never fight Paul Williams when he had the chance for being so tall and a ferocious KO artist, Tommy was 10x that.

                      Roberto Duran was a killer in the ring, you couldn't hurt him or intimidate him, in his prime he just kept coming, stole your heart and made u quit. He wouldn't let you out of the ring alive. He's another Floyd would never get in the ring with.

                      Wilfredo Benitez was s defensive genius, Floyds defense had nothing on Benitez. Plus he feared nobody. Floyd would get nothing done with him.

                      Aaron Pryor & Alexis Arguello would have cut the ring off on Floyd and with brutal body attacks, and big KO out power, would have both stopped Floyd.

                      Marvin Hagler, don't even go there. Floyd didn't have a big enough sack to fight a guy like Marvin at any weight.
                      So much BS in your post its not funny , youre either a flat out hater or you got no idea what your looking at , the Benitez comment is pure fantasy same as Arguello and Pryor , Floyd beats the 3 of them no problems .

                      Robinson fought over a 100 bums and about 20 good fighters and yes the tapes are there and he dont look light years ahead to me no doubt a great but has gotten better over the years where the good ol days were always the best , I feel a lot of modern fighters from the 80s on would have done great with him , the thing with great fighters is the gap between is very small and not the difference fans think , with these fantasy fights the fighter that turns up in the zone on the night is the one that will for all probability win .

                      Floyds biggest problem is he is small when talking WW and up , at 130-135 he could possibly beat anyone in history , he became a more polished fighter as he got older and went up in weight but the power and speed wasnt there like at 130-135 .

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