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  • vitali1999
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    #51
    Liar !!! He is the mbe, most boring ever. Robinson by ko, Gaye weather running wouldn't have worked on Ray Robinson

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    • Brassangel
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      #52
      Originally posted by vitali1999
      Liar !!! He is the mbe, most boring ever. Robinson by ko, Gaye weather running wouldn't have worked on Ray Robinson
      Mayweather didn't run. Mayweather stood in front of his opponents, but created awkward spacing with his stance, his posture, and his shoulder placement. It was boring because he wouldn't get hit, while firing back pot shots, and it made his opponents tentative. This would slow the fight down to 1-2 punch exchanges every 20 seconds or so, which is boring for the viewer.

      Early in his career he was sensational. The version everyone remembers from his dominant PPV stretch, however, is the boring one.

      As an aside, I used to write a lot of theoretical match ups in the Boxing History forums back in the day. Let us consider Robinson vs. Mayweawther.

      Robinson has hand speed, more power, and is the much larger fighter at 5'11", weighing near 160 pounds on fight night. At his best, he was a spectacular combination of speed, power, accuracy, and stamina. Given that he fought 198 times, I'd say he has the experience advantage.

      Mayweather has perhaps better hand speed, but less power and size. He is clearly the better defensive fighter, however, and more accurate (by the numbers). At his best, he couldn't be hit, and was the most discouraging opponent a lot of other great fighters would ever face.

      In a championship contest, I could see Robinson scoring some points early, but not enough to end Mayweather. Like he always does, Floyd would probably start timing Robinson and slowing the fight down. He'd look good scoring on counter punches and lead right hands - enough to steal the judges favor. He probably wins a boring decision.

      The one thing Robinson would have going for him is his size. He's a superb athlete and quite simply larger than Mayweather by a considerable margin. When you have equal training and skills, weight class definitely matters. There's a chance his punches would take a toll on Mayweather, and he'd actually be able to hurt, or even stop him.

      Keep in mind, this is coming from a guy who believes that Pacquiao would have beaten Mayweather had they fought in 2009; or that Cotto could have out-pointed Mayweather had they met earlier in their respective careers as well. I also believe Castillo beat him the first time. All that said, Mayweather won every fight in front of him, and did so predictably. Predictably because he was that good.

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      • Rath
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        #53
        Originally posted by Brassangel
        Mayweather didn't run. Mayweather stood in front of his opponents, but created awkward spacing with his stance, his posture, and his shoulder placement. It was boring because he wouldn't get hit, while firing back pot shots, and it made his opponents tentative. This would slow the fight down to 1-2 punch exchanges every 20 seconds or so, which is boring for the viewer.

        Early in his career he was sensational. The version everyone remembers from his dominant PPV stretch, however, is the boring one.

        As an aside, I used to write a lot of theoretical match ups in the Boxing History forums back in the day. Let us consider Robinson vs. Mayweawther.

        Robinson has hand speed, more power, and is the much larger fighter at 5'11", weighing near 160 pounds on fight night. At his best, he was a spectacular combination of speed, power, accuracy, and stamina. Given that he fought 198 times, I'd say he has the experience advantage.

        Mayweather has perhaps better hand speed, but less power and size. He is clearly the better defensive fighter, however, and more accurate (by the numbers). At his best, he couldn't be hit, and was the most discouraging opponent a lot of other great fighters would ever face.

        In a championship contest, I could see Robinson scoring some points early, but not enough to end Mayweather. Like he always does, Floyd would probably start timing Robinson and slowing the fight down. He'd look good scoring on counter punches and lead right hands - enough to steal the judges favor. He probably wins a boring decision.

        The one thing Robinson would have going for him is his size. He's a superb athlete and quite simply larger than Mayweather by a considerable margin. When you have equal training and skills, weight class definitely matters. There's a chance his punches would take a toll on Mayweather, and he'd actually be able to hurt, or even stop him.

        Keep in mind, this is coming from a guy who believes that Pacquiao would have beaten Mayweather had they fought in 2009; or that Cotto could have out-pointed Mayweather had they met earlier in their respective careers as well. I also believe Castillo beat him the first time. All that said, Mayweather won every fight in front of him, and did so predictably. Predictably because he was that good.
        LOL LOL and another LOL

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        • Reloaded
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          #54
          Originally posted by Rath
          LOL LOL and another LOL
          And again LOL LOL and another LOL , only its at how little you understand of boxing , I always said he does things inside that ring so subtle guys like you dont even see it , he controls the pace of a fight like a surgeon , any idiot can see GGG but guys like Floyd you got to fully understand what he does to realize how great he is , best of his era hands down .

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          • Luilun
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            #55
            Originally posted by Omowale Tribe
            You mean the one he came back and schooled again. That Castillo?
            Schooled you man ran like a B1tch

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            • fanofslug
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              #56
              Mayweather is TBE, but most are too emotional or just plain racist right now to admit this. Future generations will be less prejudicial and come to appreciate his genius.

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              • Rath
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                #57
                Originally posted by Reloaded
                And again LOL LOL and another LOL , only its at how little you understand of boxing , I always said he does things inside that ring so subtle guys like you dont even see it , he controls the pace of a fight like a surgeon , any idiot can see GGG but guys like Floyd you got to fully understand what he does to realize how great he is , best of his era hands down .
                a slow mo video would be of help. LOL

                there is nothing to understand to what floyd does. at a regular speed he wins fight. when put under a microscope like a slow mo video there it is, he;s a fraud.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Rath
                  a slow mo video would be of help. LOL

                  there is nothing to understand to what floyd does. at a regular speed he wins fight. when put under a microscope like a slow mo video there it is, he;s a fraud.
                  Bam! That's an ace served by Rath haha

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                  • Mr. Punch-Out!!
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Brassangel
                    Keep in mind, this is coming from a guy who believes that Pacquiao would have beaten Mayweather had they fought in 2009; or that Cotto could have out-pointed Mayweather had they met earlier in their respective careers as well. I also believe Castillo beat him the first time. All that said, Mayweather won every fight in front of him, and did so predictably. Predictably because he was that good.
                    That's assuming he beat all of his opponents, in which he didn't. And really, every time he did fight against elite opponents, he always came out looking average at best (the Marquez fight doesn't count). Plus, the whole IV situation makes it even more difficult to know how "good" Floyd is suppose to be.

                    Originally posted by fanofslug
                    Mayweather is TBE, but most are too emotional or just plain racist right now to admit this. Future generations will be less prejudicial and come to appreciate his genius.
                    You've got to stop listening to Floyd. This has nothing to do with racism. It's about recognizing true greatness and I'm sorry but paying off judges, getting bias scores, and cheating your way to gift decisions (especially in the biggest fight of his career) is not true greatness.
                    Last edited by Mr. Punch-Out!!; 02-07-2016, 02:50 AM.

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                    • Reloaded
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Rath
                      a slow mo video would be of help. LOL

                      there is nothing to understand to what floyd does. at a regular speed he wins fight. when put under a microscope like a slow mo video there it is, he;s a fraud.
                      Only would help you if you know what youre looking for , things would pass by you like it never happened you would be totally oblivious to some of the moves Floyd does , going by your posts you would need somebody pointing stuff out , the man is a boxing maestro and you see a cleaner .

                      To rag on him all the time like you do is a slur on you not him . it shows your weakness of character , You Lost and cant live with it , you lost lost lost and then you lost some more , but still after all that mofo losing you still not a happy loser , Id say you lost again .

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