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  • Rath
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    #61
    Originally posted by Reloaded
    Only would help you if you know what youre looking for , things would pass by you like it never happened you would be totally oblivious to some of the moves Floyd does , going by your posts you would need somebody pointing stuff out , the man is a boxing maestro and you see a cleaner .

    To rag on him all the time like you do is a slur on you not him . it shows your weakness of character , You Lost and cant live with it , you lost lost lost and then you lost some more , but still after all that mofo losing you still not a happy loser , Id say you lost again .
    hitting floyd for those bad things that he does is not a sign of weak character, defending him is

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    • TLC8
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      #62
      149-0 & A Billion Dollars Don't Make This Illiterate TBE

      Call yourself whatever u want to call yourself. Just delusional. Floyd would have stayed at 140, had he come up the same time Robinson or Leonard or Hearns or Duran or Benitez were ruling things. That being said at 140, Floyd couldn't beat Aaron Pryor or Alexis Arguello either at 140. I know it makes Floyd feel good about himself. He would never have had the sack to tangle with any of these legends mentioned. And the thought of Floyd ever fight Hagler is hilarious. He wouldn't fight GGG.

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      • fanofslug
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        #63
        Originally posted by TLC8
        Call yourself whatever u want to call yourself. Just delusional. Floyd would have stayed at 140, had he come up the same time Robinson or Leonard or Hearns or Duran or Benitez were ruling things. That being said at 140, Floyd couldn't beat Aaron Pryor or Alexis Arguello either at 140. I know it makes Floyd feel good about himself. He would never have had the sack to tangle with any of these legends mentioned. And the thought of Floyd ever fight Hagler is hilarious. He wouldn't fight GGG.
        "He would have and would never have" Stop talking about the past. Mayweather beat the best in his era, and did it with grace and flawless boxing that was and will never be seen in the ring again. That's why he is TBE. It's futile to argue otherwise. Please just stop and get a job. Pacquiao won't pay your bills.

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        • Tobi.G
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          #64
          Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
          Heavier? Lol, Pac weighed 152 when they met, Floyd's highest weight recorded on the scales on fight night is 151 against Cotto in 2012, he weighed 150 against Canelo in 2013 and guess what, 148 in his last fight before Pac against Maidana in 2014, and that 150 and 151 was at junior middleweight.

          According to nsac documents, Floyd weighed 149 when he fought Pac, yeah, not as official as stepping on the scales like Pac did, but he did step on the scales against Maidana, Canelo, and Cotto, and all those times he never weighed Pac's 152.

          But he was heavier right? LOL.
          You are right but i think Pac is a more blown up 152 than Mayweather is. Pac had to eat tons of food to keep that weight. in between fights he became lighter, not heavier. mayweather is natural bigger. Not mutch bigger but bigger.

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          • DinoCop
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            #65
            Time comes with humbleness looks like

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              #66
              Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
              Former five division world champion Floyd Mayweather (49-0, 26KOs) is insisting that he's never going to return to the ring as an active fighter.

              Mayweather retired last September after winning a twelve round unanimous decision over Andre Berto at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

              At the time of his retirement he owned the WBC/WBA world titles at welterweight and junior middleweight. Those titles have since been vacated, with the WBC title at 147 already being claimed by Danny Garcia and the WBA eliminating his super titles at both weights.

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              floyd just drawing attention to himself...

              must be having a hard time out of the limelight...

              really ksp....

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              • tangalog2200
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                #67
                Originally posted by Brassangel
                Mayweather didn't run. Mayweather stood in front of his opponents, but created awkward spacing with his stance, his posture, and his shoulder placement. It was boring because he wouldn't get hit, while firing back pot shots, and it made his opponents tentative. This would slow the fight down to 1-2 punch exchanges every 20 seconds or so, which is boring for the viewer.

                Early in his career he was sensational. The version everyone remembers from his dominant PPV stretch, however, is the boring one.

                As an aside, I used to write a lot of theoretical match ups in the Boxing History forums back in the day. Let us consider Robinson vs. Mayweawther.

                Robinson has hand speed, more power, and is the much larger fighter at 5'11", weighing near 160 pounds on fight night. At his best, he was a spectacular combination of speed, power, accuracy, and stamina. Given that he fought 198 times, I'd say he has the experience advantage.

                Mayweather has perhaps better hand speed, but less power and size. He is clearly the better defensive fighter, however, and more accurate (by the numbers). At his best, he couldn't be hit, and was the most discouraging opponent a lot of other great fighters would ever face.

                In a championship contest, I could see Robinson scoring some points early, but not enough to end Mayweather. Like he always does, Floyd would probably start timing Robinson and slowing the fight down. He'd look good scoring on counter punches and lead right hands - enough to steal the judges favor. He probably wins a boring decision.

                The one thing Robinson would have going for him is his size. He's a superb athlete and quite simply larger than Mayweather by a considerable margin. When you have equal training and skills, weight class definitely matters. There's a chance his punches would take a toll on Mayweather, and he'd actually be able to hurt, or even stop him.

                Keep in mind, this is coming from a guy who believes that Pacquiao would have beaten Mayweather had they fought in 2009; or that Cotto could have out-pointed Mayweather had they met earlier in their respective careers as well. I also believe Castillo beat him the first time. All that said, Mayweather won every fight in front of him, and did so predictably. Predictably because he was that good.
                you did give a very good fantasy srr vs floyd fight scenarios....

                however, you forgot to take or state in what era or year the fantasy fight took place..

                a very important part of a fantasy fight....

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Brassangel
                  Mayweather didn't run. Mayweather stood in front of his opponents, but created awkward spacing with his stance, his posture, and his shoulder placement. It was boring because he wouldn't get hit, while firing back pot shots, and it made his opponents tentative. This would slow the fight down to 1-2 punch exchanges every 20 seconds or so, which is boring for the viewer.

                  Early in his career he was sensational. The version everyone remembers from his dominant PPV stretch, however, is the boring one.

                  As an aside, I used to write a lot of theoretical match ups in the Boxing History forums back in the day. Let us consider Robinson vs. Mayweawther.

                  Robinson has hand speed, more power, and is the much larger fighter at 5'11", weighing near 160 pounds on fight night. At his best, he was a spectacular combination of speed, power, accuracy, and stamina. Given that he fought 198 times, I'd say he has the experience advantage.

                  Mayweather has perhaps better hand speed, but less power and size. He is clearly the better defensive fighter, however, and more accurate (by the numbers). At his best, he couldn't be hit, and was the most discouraging opponent a lot of other great fighters would ever face.

                  In a championship contest, I could see Robinson scoring some points early, but not enough to end Mayweather. Like he always does, Floyd would probably start timing Robinson and slowing the fight down. He'd look good scoring on counter punches and lead right hands - enough to steal the judges favor. He probably wins a boring decision.

                  The one thing Robinson would have going for him is his size. He's a superb athlete and quite simply larger than Mayweather by a considerable margin. When you have equal training and skills, weight class definitely matters. There's a chance his punches would take a toll on Mayweather, and he'd actually be able to hurt, or even stop him.

                  Keep in mind, this is coming from a guy who believes that Pacquiao would have beaten Mayweather had they fought in 2009; or that Cotto could have out-pointed Mayweather had they met earlier in their respective careers as well. I also believe Castillo beat him the first time. All that said, Mayweather won every fight in front of him, and did so predictably. Predictably because he was that good.
                  Dream on, dream on.

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                  • Muscles72
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Brassangel
                    Mayweather didn't run. Mayweather stood in front of his opponents, but created awkward spacing with his stance, his posture, and his shoulder placement. It was boring because he wouldn't get hit, while firing back pot shots, and it made his opponents tentative. This would slow the fight down to 1-2 punch exchanges every 20 seconds or so, which is boring for the viewer.

                    Early in his career he was sensational. The version everyone remembers from his dominant PPV stretch, however, is the boring one.

                    As an aside, I used to write a lot of theoretical match ups in the Boxing History forums back in the day. Let us consider Robinson vs. Mayweawther.

                    Robinson has hand speed, more power, and is the much larger fighter at 5'11", weighing near 160 pounds on fight night. At his best, he was a spectacular combination of speed, power, accuracy, and stamina. Given that he fought 198 times, I'd say he has the experience advantage.

                    Mayweather has perhaps better hand speed, but less power and size. He is clearly the better defensive fighter, however, and more accurate (by the numbers). At his best, he couldn't be hit, and was the most discouraging opponent a lot of other great fighters would ever face.

                    In a championship contest, I could see Robinson scoring some points early, but not enough to end Mayweather. Like he always does, Floyd would probably start timing Robinson and slowing the fight down. He'd look good scoring on counter punches and lead right hands - enough to steal the judges favor. He probably wins a boring decision.

                    The one thing Robinson would have going for him is his size. He's a superb athlete and quite simply larger than Mayweather by a considerable margin. When you have equal training and skills, weight class definitely matters. There's a chance his punches would take a toll on Mayweather, and he'd actually be able to hurt, or even stop him.

                    Keep in mind, this is coming from a guy who believes that Pacquiao would have beaten Mayweather had they fought in 2009; or that Cotto could have out-pointed Mayweather had they met earlier in their respective careers as well. I also believe Castillo beat him the first time. All that said, Mayweather won every fight in front of him, and did so predictably. Predictably because he was that good.
                    good post man

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                    • Mzembe
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Brassangel
                      Mayweather didn't run. Mayweather stood in front of his opponents, but created awkward spacing with his stance, his posture, and his shoulder placement. It was boring because he wouldn't get hit, while firing back pot shots, and it made his opponents tentative. This would slow the fight down to 1-2 punch exchanges every 20 seconds or so, which is boring for the viewer.

                      Early in his career he was sensational. The version everyone remembers from his dominant PPV stretch, however, is the boring one.

                      Robinson has hand speed, more power, and is the much larger fighter at 5'11", weighing near 160 pounds on fight night. At his best, he was a spectacular combination of speed, power, accuracy, and stamina. Given that he fought 198 times, I'd say he has the experience advantage.

                      Mayweather has perhaps better hand speed, but less power and size. He is clearly the better defensive fighter, however, and more accurate (by the numbers). At his best, he couldn't be hit, and was the most discouraging opponent a lot of other great fighters would ever face.

                      In a championship contest, I could see Robinson scoring some points early, but not enough to end Mayweather. Like he always does, Floyd would probably start timing Robinson and slowing the fight down. He'd look good scoring on counter punches and lead right hands - enough to steal the judges favor. He probably wins a boring decision.

                      The one thing Robinson would have going for him is his size. He's a superb athlete and quite simply larger than Mayweather by a considerable margin. When you have equal training and skills, weight class definitely matters. There's a chance his punches would take a toll on Mayweather, and he'd actually be able to hurt, or even stop him.

                      Keep in mind, this is coming from a guy who believes that Pacquiao would have beaten Mayweather had they fought in 2009; or that Cotto could have out-pointed Mayweather had they met earlier in their respective careers as well. I also believe Castillo beat him the first time. All that said, Mayweather won every fight in front of him, and did so predictably. Predictably because he was that good.
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                      Your is probably the best read I've read on this forum ever since I joined. I don't disagree with your assessment one bit, however I have to differ on the Pacman and Cotto fights if they had happened earlier.

                      When Floyd moved up to 140Ibs and annihilated Gatti he did call out Cotto and Hatton (the two big names and title holders at that division at the time). They both refused saying that they weren't ready for Floyd. At the time Cotto was trained by his uncle Evangelista and it is on record that he refused the fight. You can google this fact.

                      How can two undefeated fighters be scared of fighting a guy coming from a weight class below them? That's just fear and you and I know what fear does in boxing. Take a look at Roy Jones after his brutal KO at the hands of Tarver.

                      In 2007 Cotto did call out Floyd several times and that fight didn't happen for whatever reason one wants to believe although you and I know it's because of Arum who promoted Cotto at the time. Regardless, the fight would have been very competitive but Floyd would still have beaten Cotto.

                      As for Pacman, I just disagree completely. Pacman couldn't beat Marquez at any weight class and Marquez is an inferior version of Floyd when it comes to counter punching. Most of the big guys that Pac pulverized were forced to fight at a very drained weight (Oscar, Cotto, Margarito even Algieri) so the idea of Pacman beating Floyd is just that, an idea. It would never happen.
                      Back to now, if Pac was to fight Cotto or Canelo at 154 he would get destroyed so that tells you that.

                      Good read anyway on your article.

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