Should Pascal have been allowed to continue?

[crazed_z06]

i thought it was a horrible stoppage.

it should be up to the fighters whether or not they want to continue. pascal wanted to go out like a G, instead roach was too overtly protective of him.

pascal's worst round was BEFORE the round fight after he quit but roach let him out to continue fighting in that round then when he did better AFTER that round, when roach decided to pull the plug.

i hate these jay nady types who are TOO OVER PROTECTIVE of the boxer.

This is still boxing. A certain amount of physical damage is required.

Some people who are blatant advocates of early stoppages need to watch another sport.

Pascal was still able to defend himself and was still throwing punches. If anything it should have been the referee who should have called the stoppage, not roach.

What fight were you watching? Pascal seemed like he threw 6 punches in the last 3 rounds. He was just standing there getting hit. Kovalev could have got him out of there at anytime, but was just torturing him.

The only reason the stoppage looked odd is because Killer Kov was stringing him along. That isnt something you normally see in boxing. But, be realistic. Kov was landing power shots at will and Pascal was just backpeddaling.

[New England]

sergey kovalev killed a guy named roman simakov in '11

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Human:435365

http://www.boxingscene.com/roman-simakov-passes-away-tragic-knockout-loss--47006

this is the last round of the fight. he took sustained punishment throughout the fight. simakov doesn't go down from big punches, but instead starts to lose his legs after a light combination that didn't even land. he actually wobbles a bit while moving prior to any punches land.







credit to roach for stopping a fighter he hardly knew. that's not easy. training a fighter in the gym is different from working his corner during a championship fight. working a corner is an unappreciated art. you really get an appreciation for it when you watch them go 15 rounds in old fights. he wanted to stop the fight a round sooner. i would have loved to see that. it was sad to see jean pascal, a once durable and dangerous, if flawed fighter, reduced to that. he's done as a top fighter, and that fight did him no favors.

a few more rounds of that, or a brutal knockout to finish things, could have ended his career or worse. in time, if he cares to, he can come back and take easier touches in montreal. they'll still watch him fight.

[bojangles1987]

It was just a beatdown, pascal had nothing for Kovalev. Fight could have been stopped like 2 rounds earlier.

Most referees would have stepped in during the brutal beating Pascal took in the 5th.

[HanzGruber]

He threw like 3 punches total in the last two rounds..

[Teddy Brenner]

Pascal complained loudly about the stoppage in the first fight - he said nothing at all about the stoppage in the second fight.

In retrospect, the second fight should never have happened. Pascal has to set his sights on fringe contender types and stay away from P4P fighters.

[KeyboardWarrior]

Roach should have trusted his instincts and thrown in the towel when he felt Pascal was taking too much of a beating. Prior to Round 7

[Lokutus]

The rematch with Kovalev? And if yes, would he have had a chance to turn things around? It was a championship fight after all,

[Weltschmerz]

sergey kovalev killed a guy named roman simakov in '11

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Human:435365

http://www.boxingscene.com/roman-simakov-passes-away-tragic-knockout-loss--47006

this is the last round of the fight. he took sustained punishment throughout the fight. simakov doesn't go down from big punches, but instead starts to lose his legs after a light combination that didn't even land. he actually wobbles a bit while moving prior to any punches land.







credit to roach for stopping a fighter he hardly knew. that's not easy. training a fighter in the gym is different from working his corner during a championship fight. working a corner is an unappreciated art. you really get an appreciation for it when you watch them go 15 rounds in old fights. he wanted to stop the fight a round sooner. i would have loved to see that. it was sad to see jean pascal, a once durable and dangerous, if flawed fighter, reduced to that. he's done as a top fighter, and that fight did him no favors.

a few more rounds of that, or a brutal knockout to finish things, could have ended his career or worse. in time, if he cares to, he can come back and take easier touches in montreal. they'll still watch him fight.

That's what I was hinting - perhaps Simakov had something to do with Roach' decision. I found it odd he wanted to stop the fight so early (I mean the repeated warnings long before the end of the 7th.)

Roach is vastly experienced, I don't buy the argument with him 'not knowing Pascal properly', it's a weak argument.

[Weltschmerz]

Most referees would have stepped in during the brutal beating Pascal took in the 5th.

No, not really. Pascal took punishment but didn't look critical at any point. He wasn't knocked down either. He could have continued when Roach stopped it.

[New England]

That's what I was hinting - perhaps Simakov had something to do with Roach' decision. I found it odd he wanted to stop the fight so early (I mean the repeated warnings long before the end of the 7th.)

Roach is vastly experienced, I don't buy the argument with him 'not knowing Pascal properly', it's a weak argument.

that he's not been around pascal enough to know what it looks like when he's badly hurt or completely exhausted, how his dimeanor looks, etc, is hugely important. he'd never worked a corner for pascal in his life. just because you don't understand what goes on in a fighter's corner doesn't mean it's a weak argument