Andre Ward is a lying coward

[M Bison]

HBO appear to be doing a poor job right now in regards to this fight but I expect it picks up momentum if the Aquacknis Chickenson fight don't happen with Kovalev this year, with the in house revenue I'd say the Aquacknis fight isn't really being seriously considered now anyway, too many sticking points in that fight.

You know who's fault that is and it's certainly not Adonis fault.
We have people like Kathy Duva to blame, she loves holding fights back and preventing them we all seen Adonis plenty of times go face to face with this guy its clear as day he isn't scared of this idiot.

[CtrlAltDefeat]

I pretty sure he not gonna fight him, you hear kovalev saying he hopes and basically being nice to ward to not scare him into hiding. Truth is their is no actual contract that states after Ward's 2 tuneups he will be facing Kovalev.

What we know of Ward is he is very talented but lacks in the balls departments, when his career was left to him he chose every easy fight possible, he even sued his promoter to get out of his contract cause Dan Goosen wanted him to face bute etc and ward didnt want to.

Lol andre ward is a true primadonna and crybaby B***h. A) SoC never took on a challenge outside his homecountry, outside his comfort zone without handpicked ref/officials AKA not a road warrior, all champions fought other champions outside their country in the past.- Makes his own rules ,B) ducking below the waistline excessively C) sucker punching when the ref steps in D) elbows to opponents face worse than mayweather E) ducking below the waistline to avoid getting hit and frustrating opponents F) headbutts like a battering ram (like the notorious leaping headbutts in the kessler/abraham fight) when we saw andre get his own medicine against bika it was hilarious seeing him cry after the fight complaining about the headbutts, double standards hypocrite. Froch is/was the real 168 champion,road warrior he took on all corners , and like i said he always comes back stronger in the rematch. Fx in the first kessler fight (in mikkel kessler backyard) I had froch winning and this is coming from a dane no bias (viking from denmark) it was a draw at best and froch wasnt even giving it all. In the rematch however we saw how froch took kessler apart with relative ease, keeping him at bay with the long jab troughout most of the fight and also hurting mikkel with venomous powershots. Same with groves Carl weathered the storm in the first fight and tko'd groves in the 9th. In the rematch froch annihilated groves without problems knocked him out colder than ice. Paddy ran for the antivenom when he saw how the cobra venomously knocked his fighter back into last century. Im sure froch would solve the ward puzzle if he got a rematch w a proper rereree that enforce the rules of boxing.Andre can drag dawson down no problem but face golovkin at a catchweight? Hell no . bring fighters to his comfort zone to get sh**ted on w the scorecards and frustrating them w dirty illegal tactics sure no problem but going to nottingham and rematch froch? Out of the question. He is a smalltime primadonna/diva fighting in small half empty arenas giving away free tickets to random people passing by on the street ,meanwhile froch sells out stadiums w 80.000+ spectators at the edge of their seats. Andre says he will do this and that but always prices himself out when it comes down to a challenge or simply doesnt pick up the phone when he is called out. I doubt we will even see him fight kovalev unless stevenson breaks several of his ribs fighting him first and ward sending his spies into kovalevs camp finding out exactly where the krusher is hurting so he can capitalise on that, not to mention ward will likely be juiced to the max on PED's . probably gonna pull out w a bogus injury unless they can slip some kind of poison into kovalevs system before the fight, causing the krusher to be a shell of his former self. He wont even do olympic style drug testing (VADA). Kinda like floyd with his paid off secret commission doing it for him Btw if andre is reading this i will gladly take you on anytime anywhere. (Just allow me a 3-6 month training camp) Im undefeated so probably its better then dragging paul smith up to 172 who already lost twice to shellcrab abraham '.;.;.` u ****ing poser Lets see if ****** Cu**er and S.o.Cu*t has a response. Im sure his diet contains mainly squids and goatmeat since he did perfect his octopus billygoat style of fighting.
forgot to mention ward had postponed the original super6 final fight date due to some bogus cut on his forehead (that he received in sparring while wearing full headgear??) and then he jump in the fight a few months later (with one broken hand?BS) when froch homefanbase no longer was in the country and his motivation wasnt anywhere near what we saw in the bute fight , i cant make up excuses but i can point to facts like fx the referee didnt enforce the rules of boxing and let ward grab like an octopus , punch on the breaks, elbowing, ducking below the waistline and all that other nonsense , if the fight was in UK then froch would have spanked wards cheating ass princess andrea would surely get point deductions for all of his excessive fouling.

[Nubia]

How unfortunate that you guys will never get over the Froch loss. It's getting real sad.

[CtrlAltDefeat]

my shades look better than yours wardtard

[billeau2]

Dawson got knocked out cold in sparring because he was so drained in camp for the Ward fight.

Kessler had to retire from the scar tissue Ward left him as a gift of his 35 intentional headbutts during that fight. Ward didn't even get warned for a butt so he used it to his advantage to cheat flagrantly.

you know hyperbole never counters the contention that one is explaining away all victories given to a particular fighter...

A professional ref lets Ward become a haliberd...and Dawson has to be picked up and placed in the ring...

[billeau2]

TBH i think Bute could cause ward problems when he is rushing in with Bute landing that devastating body shot that he was known for , and since ward doesnt have immense power in his hands i dont see him doing the same number on bute as froch did, with that being said i dont see bute ever beating froch, styles makes fights and froch was too much for bute , just like the cobra dismantled arthur abraham flawlessly from round 1-12 without needing to get out of 2nd gear and on the other hand we saw how ward struggled with Arthur in the first half of the fight , Ward even resulted to several low blows and critical headbutts on abrahams previously shattered jaw/chin . If you remember the miranda fight arthur got his face totally shattered by headbutts combined with mirandas hayemakers, yet he saw the fight to the finish and won on points, abrahams jaw was litteraly hanging from his face and his mouth was looking like idk what . Im sure virgil and ward had this card up their sleeve to capitalise on that previous injury if they got in trouble with abraham and couldnt win purely on boxing.

Hey i am quite sure Margarito would have also given Floyd problems. But Margarito could not win (fairly) against A level.

I think Ward tends to bring out exxagerated accounts of his transgressions in the ring. Its not like Ward doesn't fight with a ref guys... I don't remember exactly who Ward struggled with in the tourney. But I know he won.

[REMOVE SHARK 55]

He won a Gold medal for your country (assuming you're American). Give the guy a break.

[billeau2]

He won a Gold medal for your country (assuming you're American). Give the guy a break.

I understand the hate for Ward, I just don't agree with it.

A lot of the hate comes from a lack of understanding how a body puncher operates imo. The guy you are fighting is not going to just let you land a cross to the body...you have to go in hard and throw him off, Ward is aggressive that way...This generation of fighters don't have guys that fight to the body regularly...is it any coincidance that Hopkins gets the same rap?

[REMOVE SHARK 55]

I understand the hate for Ward, I just don't agree with it.

A lot of the hate comes from a lack of understanding how a body puncher operates imo. The guy you are fighting is not going to just let you land a cross to the body...you have to go in hard and throw him off, Ward is aggressive that way...This generation of fighters don't have guys that fight to the body regularly...is it any coincidance that Hopkins gets the same rap?

My comments weren't directed to you or anyone else giving their opinions. I can understand the hate and IMO the Goossen saga has tainted him in my eyes. However I didn't know the ins and outs of the particular contract so it's nothing personal towards him.

My comments where directed to Jim Ross childish thread title. Lying aŁ$ coward. Gold medallist and Super 6 winner. A man who could be killed for what he represents. Very ****** troll.

Billeau2 re. BHop, I'm a fan of his. I don't think it's a style issue he shouldn't have said his White Boy comments. He's in the history books now and is doing well with his role at GBP.

[billeau2]

My comments weren't directed to you or anyone else giving their opinions. I can understand the hate and IMO the Goossen saga has tainted him in my eyes. However I didn't know the ins and outs of the particular contract so it's nothing personal towards him.

My comments where directed to Jim Ross childish thread title. Lying aŁ$ coward. Gold medallist and Super 6 winner. A man who could be killed for what he represents. Very ****** troll.

Billeau2 re. BHop, I'm a fan of his. I don't think it's a style issue he shouldn't have said his White Boy comments. He's in the history books now and is doing well with his role at GBP.

I hear you. Its crazy how these things become racial lol. The funniest thing is that Oakland is probably one of the most racially sensative bad areas anywhere. The badass contingency in Oakland consists of italians who came out and moved out farther eventually, Hispanics and Afro Americans...Huey was gunned down in West Oakland... probably with a little help from the gubberment lol.

Ward does really represent... he tries to do good things in the area and Oakland needs good things, I used to get kids when I was teaching high school who came from Oakland lord have mercy!

I tend to look at it similar to when a guy like Fury talks up his fan base in England...In this country we tend to associate our guys as Americans, we forget that a guy like Evander survived on the homespun Georgia advice of his mother...As he says it "I used to whine that my older brothers and sisters would not let me win and she would say.... 'Evander the world is tough no one gonna let you win.'" See? where I am from? New York City? Evander's mom would have probably said "Hit them twice as hard and run twice as fast."