Comments Thread For: WBA Prez: Canelo Beating Golovkin Would Erase All Doubts

[spanishboxing]

Yes if if if..as for Ward 3G. .yes the 164 offer was bullsht. .Ward was right not to take it. . .however. .Ward did say NO to the offer HBO made him few yrs back to fight 3G. .that's a fact. .yes he had issues. .but those same issues didn't stop him from fighting a few times. .fact is he said NO at 168 vs GGG ones....as for the Canelo situation. .3G is Canelo's mandatory. .3G doesn't have to fight below 160 if he doesn't want to..or even take a 90/10 split GB mention...yes 3G said he do 154 for Floyd. .sht Ward said he do 160 for Floyd..at 154 3G vs Floyd isn't a CW. .at 155 is a CW. .facts are 3G is Canelo mandatory at 160 ..fight at 160 or vacate ..then ask GGG for a non title fight at 155..a business fight..Canelo takes more of da purse since its not a mandatory fight. .being the A side. ...I'm sure 3G takes it. .him n his team have said it...either way at 55 or 60...3G beats Canelo by TKO KO or UD..only thing that can help Canelo are the judges on da cards if he makes it tru 12Rd. .. and as for Canelo vs Floyd. .Canelo will never be ready for Floyd. .it wouldn't had matter if he waited a few more fights to fight Floyd. .da man can't still cut the ring off till this day. .lacks uses of a jab..bad footwork...stamina issues. .he just looks good vs small stationary targets ..power overrated..yes he fought better fighter than 3G. .but he look really bad vs those fighters. .n got a gift in one. .vs Cotto he looked Ook..he still didn't uses no jab. .didn't cut ring off. .he was just da bigger fighter n took cotto clean shots better like he always does bc smaller fighters. .ones he fight fighters his size da chin will be no more. .look what happen to Chávez jr. .n no one had a better chin than him vs smaller fighters.

[MC Hammer]

Seriously what part of THEY OFFERED WARD A FIGHT AND HE SAID NO is that hard for some of ya'll to comprehend? I know "his business wasn't right so he said no" well shhhh isn't that what Golovkin is kinda dealing with now? He's got two mando's and a shot at lineal glory. He should put all that on pause now because Ward finally has a contract he's happy with. Let's just drop this boogeyman bullshhh because that's exactly what it is. You said they were afraid of Ward which is ****** as fk, sorry bro but this is boxing that shhh don't fly with me.

WHAT PART OF WARD OFFERED HIM A FIGHT AND THEY RETORTED WITH A RIDICULOUS CW DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? GGG isn't focusing solely on mandatories because he said himself that he would fight DeGale at 168, someone who isn't the biggest star in the world and wouldn't be ppv, but the last undefeated US Olympic Gold medalist needs a cw. Canelo's happening at the end of the year, and ggg said he'd go back down to 160 after a 168 fight. Ironically enough you're using a boogeyman argument with Canelo and ggg but are religiously against them in a situation that's just as blatantly wrong.

[turnedup]

WHAT PART OF WARD OFFERED HIM A FIGHT AND THEY RETORTED WITH A RIDICULOUS CW DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? GGG isn't focusing solely on mandatories because he said himself that he would fight DeGale at 168, someone who isn't the biggest star in the world and wouldn't be ppv, but the last undefeated US Olympic Gold medalist needs a cw. Canelo's happening at the end of the year, and ggg said he'd go back down to 160 after a 168 fight. Ironically enough you're using a boogeyman argument with Canelo and ggg but are religiously against them in a situation that's just as blatantly wrong.

Yes let's skip to 2015 and forget the entire history of this "potential matchup." Last I checked Abel Sanchez does not negotiate anything except how many hours per day he trains Golovkin....you might want to remember that when your biggest argument point is the opinion and of a trainer...one who is limited to working out his man. Much like I told shoulder roll...since when in the course of life does a physical trainer give you financial or business advice? The only person who has said 164 is the trainer...end of argument bro. Keep it moving.

[Shadoww702]

I don't see a lot of canelo haters thoug but I can see it happening. I can see the other way around too if ggg beats canelo and people are gonna say he look really bad against mayweather and actually lost to Lara. Haters are gonna hate. Should just watch and enjoy and ignore all the background noise. Gonna stop trying to reason with people after one week on this site. Lol

Canelo lost to Lara??? News to me? Lara ran the entire fight. Even you have to admit that! He punched and than ran off like the road runner.

[MC Hammer]

Yes let's skip to 2015 and forget the entire history of this "potential matchup." Last I checked Abel Sanchez does not negotiate anything except how many hours per day he trains Golovkin....you might want to remember that when your biggest argument point is the opinion and of a trainer...one who is limited to working out his man. Much like I told shoulder roll...since when in the course of life does a physical trainer give you financial or business advice? The only person who has said 164 is the trainer...end of argument bro. Keep it moving.

GGG said it himself on ESPN on that show with Kellerman and the black guy.

[MC Hammer]

Yes let's skip to 2015 and forget the entire history of this "potential matchup." Last I checked Abel Sanchez does not negotiate anything except how many hours per day he trains Golovkin....you might want to remember that when your biggest argument point is the opinion and of a trainer...one who is limited to working out his man. Much like I told shoulder roll...since when in the course of life does a physical trainer give you financial or business advice? The only person who has said 164 is the trainer...end of argument bro. Keep it moving.

Also since when does a trainer not influence the fighter? How often did Freddie Roach demand CW's for Pac? The fact that they know the game on the ground level makes it clear that someone would respect their opinion on a fighting level. Don't ignore the score jus t because it doesn't back you. A trainer's input is always going to be valuable to a fighter as well as a promoter who wants to make sure their fighter wins.

[aboutfkntime]

Yes let's skip to 2015 and forget the entire history of this "potential matchup." Last I checked Abel Sanchez does not negotiate anything except how many hours per day he trains Golovkin....you might want to remember that when your biggest argument point is the opinion and of a trainer...one who is limited to working out his man. Much like I told shoulder roll...since when in the course of life does a physical trainer give you financial or business advice? The only person who has said 164 is the trainer...end of argument bro. Keep it moving.

That is absolute rubbish !!

Loeffler said it, Sanchez said it, AND Golovkin said it.....

And come on man, are you really unaware that an adult human being is 100% accountable for the words/actions of his OFFICIAL representatives?

Loeffler: GGG would fight Ward on a 50-50 basis at 164.....
http://www. boxing news 24 .com/2015...-basis-at-164/

Golovkin's Coach: Andre Ward Must Go to 164 or No Fight.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-coach-andre-ward-go-164-no-fight--93850

Golovkin's Promoter: We'd Fight Ward at 164, 50-50 Split.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-promoter-wed-fight-ward-164-50-50-split--93258

Golovkin insists Andre Ward must fight him at 164.....
http://www. sports news 24 .com/boxi...ht-him-at-164/

That was a categorical " duck ".

[ShoulderRoll]

I don't care about golovkin supporters, I speak for myself and as I said there is a lot of hypocrisy and double standards up on this site.

If you dislike hypocrisy and double standards then why don't you ever say anything about the Golovkin supporters who engage in it? That's my point.

What bothers me is the fan f@ckery around here with some fighters, plain and simple.

It bothers you but at the same time you say you don't care to call out the Golovkin supporters. Why is that, why do you only call out Canelo fans for example?

When you only criticize certain fanbases it comes across as if you have some type of agenda.

[turnedup]

If you dislike hypocrisy and double standards then why don't you ever say anything about the Golovkin supporters who engage in it? That's my point.



It bothers you but at the same time you say you don't care to call out the Golovkin supporters. Why is that, why do you only call out Canelo fans for example?

When you only criticize certain fanbases it comes across as if you have some type of agenda.

Yeah...I do have an agenda...STOP P*SSYFYING OUR SPORT!

[turnedup]

Also since when does a trainer not influence the fighter? How often did Freddie Roach demand CW's for Pac? The fact that they know the game on the ground level makes it clear that someone would respect their opinion on a fighting level. Don't ignore the score jus t because it doesn't back you. A trainer's input is always going to be valuable to a fighter as well as a promoter who wants to make sure their fighter wins.

LMAO...You think Arum listens to Roach...get out of your basement and come on out to the real world. Roach, Sanchez, Hunter, John David Jackson are employees of an employee of a promoter.