Stevenson be clamin' HBO refused 50/50

[HeroBando]

You didn't answer the question. Is English your first language?

HBO is nowhere near boxing's biggest platform.

And while it may be the most prestigious in the eyes of internet nerds, to the millions watching PBC that don't watch HBO, HBO is irrelevant.

Well I have better command of English than you, so which way you wanna guess?

To the millions watching Pbc on TV, pbc is irrelevant dummy. Nobody gives a **** about the pbc starlets. Nobody ouside these forums is gonna bat an eyelash when it folds.

[original zero]

Well I have better command of English than you, so which way you wanna guess?

To the millions watching Pbc on TV, pbc is irrelevant dummy. Nobody gives a **** about the pbc starlets. Nobody ouside these forums is gonna bat an eyelash when it folds.

If you have such a great command of the language, why did you have no idea what "biggest platform" meant? You believed "biggest platform" meant a channel most people don't get that is in FOURTH PLACE in terms of boxing viewership. That's the "biggest platform?"

Now you admit that MILLIONS watch PBC, yet claim "nobody gives a ____" about PBC.

If 3.5 million watched Danny Garcia and 1 million watched Tim Bradley, and nobody gives a hoot about PBC, what does that say about HBO? That must mean that HBO is virtually irrelevant.

[HeroBando]

If you have such a great command of the language, why did you have no idea what "biggest platform" meant? You believed "biggest platform" meant a channel most people don't get that is in FOURTH PLACE in terms of boxing viewership. That's the "biggest platform?"

Now you admit that MILLIONS watch PBC, yet claim "nobody gives a ____" about PBC.

If 3.5 million watched Danny Garcia and 1 million watched Tim Bradley, and nobody gives a hoot about PBC, what does that say about HBO? That must mean that HBO is virtually irrelevant.

HBO is a premium network available to a fraction of the viewers compared to CBS. Premium = monthly subscription fees. Jeeze, slow on the uptake. Was ME on NBC the biggest platform in boxing cause they did 4m+ on NBC (for a fraction of the pbc cost)? No, to have a platform you have to have a sustainable model, not some fly by night !money drain ala pbc

[original zero]

HBO is a premium network available to a fraction of the viewers compared to CBS. Premium = monthly subscription fees. Jeeze, slow on the uptake. Was ME on NBC the biggest platform in boxing cause they did 4m+ on NBC (for a fraction of the pbc cost)? No, to have a platform you have to have a sustainable model, not some fly by night !money drain ala pbc

Hahahaha you continue to sink your own battleship.

"HBO is a premium network available to a fraction of the viewers"

Guess what, that means it's NOT the biggest platform!!!

Thanks for playing.

Btw, please let us know what Main Events telecast did over 4 million viewers on NBC. I'll wait. If you're referring to the 3.9 million audience reach, that is not over 4 million, that is not simultaneous viewers, and even if you want to count that statistic, PBC just did a 6.2 million audience reach on FOX.

[-MEGA-]

Nearly two million watched Stevenson on CBS *in the afternoon.*

On what basis are those "poor numbers?"

And you continue to refuse to explain how HBO is "boxing's biggest platform" when boxing on NBC, CBS and FOX completely blow away the number of viewers on HBO.

Those were your words. Boxing's biggest platform. How can a channel with so few viewers be a bigger platform than networks with millions more boxing viewers?

Hahaha, try to explain that one away . . .

You're an idiot. PBC is the platform, not CBS, they're the provider under haymons PBC platforml. Although I don't want PBC to fail there's no question they've only had a few "successful" shows in terms of ratings (Stevenson isn't one of them) and they are losing money at this point. There's no doubt about it that HBO is the biggest platform in boxing at this point. More people watched a rerun of "saved by the bell" than the Stevenson fight during that time slot. Stevensons contract is with haymon not Viacom, stop lying. Go away.

[original zero]

Mega -

Very easy to call me an idiot, much tougher to prove it. But if you ever want to compare intellectual credentials, let me know.

PBC is the name of a television show on CBS, FOX and NBC, just as "World Championship Boxing" is the name of a television show on HBO.

The poster claimed HBO is boxing's biggest platform and that is 100% false. HBO's boxing audience is dwarved by CBS, FOX and NBC. HBO is now the fourth biggest boxing platform in the United States.

You say Stevenson's ratings weren't successful, but twice as many people watched him as watched Kovalev.

So what is the bigger platform? The network that gets you nearly 2 million viewers or the network that gets you 1 million viewers?

Do the math.

Interesting that you want me to go away. It's human nature in the face of factual information contrary to your previously held beliefs to want to avoid the messenger.

Haymon is Stevenson's manager. Viacom is Stevenson's television partner.

Were you under the impression that if a fighter has a manger that they can't also have a television partner?

Would you like me to make you an itemized list of all of the false information you managed to cram into one paragraph?

[-MEGA-]

Mega -

Very easy to call me an idiot, much tougher to prove it. But if you ever want to compare intellectual credentials, let me know.

PBC is the name of a television show on CBS, FOX and NBC, just as "World Championship Boxing" is the name of a television show on HBO.

The poster claimed HBO is boxing's biggest platform and that is 100% false. HBO's boxing audience is dwarved by CBS, FOX and NBC. HBO is now the fourth biggest boxing platform in the United States.

You say Stevenson's ratings weren't successful, but twice as many people watched him as watched Kovalev.

So what is the bigger platform? The network that gets you nearly 2 million viewers or the network that gets you 1 million viewers?

Do the math.

Interesting that you want me to go away. It's human nature in the face of factual information contrary to your previously held beliefs to want to avoid the messenger.

Haymon is Stevenson's manager. Viacom is Stevenson's television partner.

Were you under the impression that if a fighter has a manger that they can't also have a television partner?

Would you like me to make you an itemized list of all of the false information you managed to cram into one paragraph?

Again, PBC is the platform in which haymon is shopping amongst different service providers. But the Networks are not the platforms in the case of PBC. That's why there's no PBC on showtime as showtime provides their own platform "showtime championship boxing" amongst others.

HBO provides its own platforms as well, BAD and HBO championship boxing.

If your argument was that PBC was the bigger platform then I wouldn't have chimed in. Did any one network do more boxing numbers throughout 2015 than HBO? I didn't check, but I doubt it. PBC probably did, but again I'm speculating. I would think that you should at least know what your arguing about if your as smart as you say

Also, PBC fighters (including Stevenson) only contractual obligation are to haymon at this point. No one network. Unless you could provide me proof to the contrary, your just blowing hot air.

Why would any haymon PBC fighter be contracted to a network when he's still shopping it around? That would be dumb, don't you think? in the end Haymon will get the exclusive network contract for his PBC platform. Get it

[original zero]

Mega -

PBC is the name of a TV series. You are free to refer to it as a platform if you wish, but the previous poster specifically referenced HBO as boxing's biggest platform, not World Championship Boxing.

So he was clearly talking about television networks, not television series. HBO is not the biggest platform for boxing anymore. The number of viewers on NBC, CBS and FOX decimate what HBO is able to muster.

You have absolutely no idea what Stevenson's contractual obligations are. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

You claim Stevenson's only contractual obligations are to Haymon, but that is 100% false. Unlike most Haymon fighters, Stevenson is signed with a promoter (GYM). Will you be apologizing for posting false information?

Neither one of us knows the details of GYM's relationship with Viacom in regards to Stevenson. You insist there is no contract. I haven't insisted anything. Therefore, I can back up everything I've said and you can't.

So please apologize for posting false information. It's incredibly unfair to the community.

[Cinci Champ]

Huh so I guess Haymon doesn't wanna make inroads with HBO, OK, and puts his clients interests behind his loyalties. Loyal guy that he is. But PBC is on all the networks so this loyalty must go off and on

lol clients interests give me a break his clients make more money

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

You're an idiot. PBC is the platform, not CBS, they're the provider under haymons PBC platforml. Although I don't want PBC to fail there's no question they've only had a few "successful" shows in terms of ratings (Stevenson isn't one of them) and they are losing money at this point. There's no doubt about it that HBO is the biggest platform in boxing at this point. More people watched a rerun of "saved by the bell" than the Stevenson fight during that time slot. Stevensons contract is with haymon not Viacom, stop lying. Go away.

To be fair Saved By the Bell is a ATG show