Kovalev will go down in history as one of the greatest LHVWT ever

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  • MisterPullman
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    #21
    Originally posted by Szef
    Precisely.

    If he beat Stevenson and Ward, he'd still have at least 5 years left.

    Besides these three, LHW is a pretty **** division. I love my Polack Fonfara but he'd get oblitered by Kova. Betevbiev will get beaten as soon as he meets a decent fighter who can cotrol the distance. Fonfara would beat him.

    The division is just not deep enough. He could move up to CW but that's a. 25 pounds gap, the bigger boys would obliterate our favorite killa.
    Are you kidding? or...

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      #22
      Originally posted by kiDynamite92
      Ward out clinched Clemente Russo back in the Olympics, Clemente Russo, the guy who's currently the strongest amatuer heavyweight in the world...
      Russo is currently the strongest amateur heavyweight in the world? When was the last time you watched amateur boxing?

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      • kiDynamite92
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        #23
        Originally posted by Chollo Vista
        You forgot the most important which is Bob Foster.

        Now to be fair, I'm no historian, but Langford was a great all around fighter because he started at a lower weight and rose all the way to fight Heavyweights even though he lost to them. But was Langford wasn't necessarily a great Light Heavy.

        H2H, half those guys won't stand a chance against Kov.

        Toney tastes his first KO loss.

        Moorer without a doubt gets stretched.

        Langford won't last 22 seconds.

        Spinks loses

        Roy has the best chance and even then I'd say a few prayers for him.

        It's just something in the eye test with Kovalev that's different.
        You're absolutely insane. You started of well with the bit about Langford and him being untested at LHW but those predictions of yours are crazy af.

        Do you really believe he could stop James Toney!? The same guy that guys like Sam Peters couldn't rock?

        Or beat Michael Moorer who went rounds with Foreman and beat the greatest cruiserweight of all time?

        Spinks beat Larry Holmes, although a bit lucky on the decision but still inpressive for a mere LHW.

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          #24
          Time will still have to pass to see where he will eventually be ranked as a LHW but at this point you would have to be lying to yourself if you don't Kovalev gives almost any fighter in the history of LHW a tough outing at the minimum. Unless he gets caught with something big which can happen to any fighter, he isn't going to be an easy person to beat. He's tall, rangy with his shots and packs a hell of a punch not only up top but to the body as well.

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          • kiDynamite92
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            #25
            Originally posted by pesticid
            Russo is currently the strongest amateur heavyweight in the world? When was the last time you watched amateur boxing?
            Yes currently the strongest or one of. He was a LHW when he fought Ward of course and he now fights at Heavyweight and sometimes super heavyweight.

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              #26
              Originally posted by kiDynamite92
              You're absolutely insane. You started of well with the bit about Langford and him being untested at LHW but those predictions of yours are crazy af.

              Do you really believe he could stop James Toney!? The same guy that guys like Sam Peters couldn't rock?

              Or beat Michael Moorer who went rounds with Foreman and beat the greatest cruiserweight of all time?

              Spinks beat Larry Holmes, although a bit lucky on the decision but still inpressive for a mere LHW.
              Ok, maybe I was jumping the gun in stopping Toney because Toney's defense was pretty damn good. But without a doubt, he'd beat Toney. Toney would shell up and go full survival, philly shell mode.

              Moorer's chin has always been pretty bad. Holy dropped him like 5 times, Tua almost killed him in 30 seconds and Foreman left him staring at the ceiling. Not to mention, Bert Cooper gave him everything he could handle and then some. P4P, weight for weight, Kovalev has prime George Foreman power. Complete scary movie sht that I've never seen before outside of Mike Tyson although their body types are a dichotomy, the end result is synonymous.

              Regarding Spinks. Michael would be shook similar to how he was against Tyson. He'd get his lights shut out just like Tyson shut his lights out in similar fashion.
              Last edited by Chollo Vista; 01-31-2016, 12:57 AM.

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                #27
                It's hard to judge him all time right now since he's a very big light heavyweight who struggles to make weight whose best wins are against guys who moved up like Hopkins and Pascal, and even ward and Stevenson too if those fights every materialize. So we haven't seen what he looks like against a physical equal who is very good. Maybe that will happen down the road, hard to say right now. Regardless, he's one of the best in boxing right now and that's what matters

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                  Ok, maybe I was jumping the gun in stopping Toney because Toney's defense was pretty damn good. But without a doubt, he'd beat Toney. Toney would shell up and go full survival, philly shell mode.

                  Moorer's chin has always been pretty bad. Holy dropped him like 5 times, Tua almost killed him and Foreman left him staring at the ceiling. P4P, weight for weight, Kovalev has prime George Foreman power. Complete scary movie sht that I've never seen before.

                  Regarding Spinks. Michael would be shook similar to how he was against Tyson. He'd get his lights shut out just like Tyson shut his lights out in similar fashion.
                  You're absolutely insane!

                  You're comparing what happened to those LHW at HW against fully fledged heavyweights who were at some point the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world! If Kovalev is that good, he should go up to heavyweight to prove it or atleast cruiser.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                    Could we see him in with a decent opponent first? I'm not talking 50y/o Hopkins. Kov is really good but it's embarrassing to see GOAT claims when the guy hasn't faced any prime greats, near prime greats, or good fighters in general. Hopefully hes get his chance to step up soon and prove greatness. We say this same hype with Bute, Matthysee, and countless others. Let him have his chance to prove it.
                    This^^^^^^^^


                    Redd, you on are a roll tonight

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by kiDynamite92
                      You're absolutely insane!

                      You're comparing what happened to those LHW at HW against fully fledged heavyweights who were at some point the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world! If Kovalev is that good, he should go up to heavyweight to prove it or atleast cruiser.
                      You're the one that compared what those guys did to Heavyweights. If you're going to bring up the topic and mention who Spinks and Moorer beat at Heavy, then you also have to talk about who knocked him out as well.

                      Now, there's a difference between being a good P4P fighter and being one of the best LHW's of all time. I don't see Kov as someone that will go up to Heavyweight and be competitive. But that still doesn't stop him from going down in history as one of the best Light Heavies of all time.

                      Not everyone can make that transition from 175 to heavy. Just look at Bob Foster. But that still doesn't stop Foster from being one of the best of all time.
                      Last edited by Chollo Vista; 01-31-2016, 01:09 AM.

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