Yes. Kovalev doesn't make weight easy.
If Ward asked Kovalev for a 172 lb catch weight would it be an issue?
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If Andre Ward asked for a catchweight for Kovalev, he would be a scared coward. But Andre Ward is not a scared coward. Andre Ward is a man. Andre Ward will fight Kovalev at 175. Not only that, but Andre Ward will knock Kovalev out at 175. Ward sees the china Kovalev is packing.
On the other hand, Gennady Golovkin is a coward. That is why he asks for catchweights for fights he knows he can't win.
Gennady Golovkin is a coward. Andre Ward is a man. Gennady Golovkin wants to drag a junior middleweight to 160. Andre Ward moved up to 175 to fight the killer in the division.
Andre Ward is a man.
Gennady Golovkin is a coward.Comment
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But when you're fighting someone who is a legit threat to beat you, you're going to insist on a weight you think is mutually fair.
This is why I never understood (well, apart from dyed-in-the-wool haters) why Golovkin was said to be hypocritical for being willing to fight Chavez or Froch at 168 but wanting Ward to come to 164. Chavez and Froch simply aren't on Golovkin's level in terms of boxing ability -- he knew he'd smash them. Also, they're big stars, so he'd accept the size disadvantage. He'd just be happy to get them into the ring so he could lay down an epic beating on them.
However, Ward is a very good boxer, and Golovkin would have to insist on a fair weight because you cannot just concede major disadvantages against an opponent with equal or greater boxing skill than yourself. And since Ward's not a star, he doesn't bring the kind of money that would make it "worth it" to put oneself at such a massive disadvantage.Comment
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Yeah that's the only reason why I wouldn't do it if I were Ward. His biggest career win was earned when he dragged Dawson down a full division and some people failed to give him full credit.
Ward routinely rehydrated to 180+ while he was campaigning at 168, he was big for the division. If he's smaller than Kovalev, it's not by much and I'd probably pick him to beat Kovalev so why taint what would potentially be the greatest win of your career AGAIN??Comment
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Yeah that's the only reason why I wouldn't do it if I were Ward. His biggest career win was earned when he dragged Dawson down a full division and some people failed to give him full credit.
Ward routinely rehydrated to 180+ while he was campaigning at 168, he was big for the division. If he's smaller than Kovalev, it's not by much and I'd probably pick him to beat Kovalev so why taint what would potentially be the greatest win of your career AGAIN??
he wasn't even confident enough to fight froch a guy he beat because he didn't have the same circumstances of the first fight. that should tell you how important these "little things" are. he didn't even want to fight barrera preferring to fight periban but i think he feels comfortable enough since the fight is in oakland so if things aren't going his way he can always resort to his hugging tactics to get him out of trouble. a safety net if you will. we saw a microcosm of this in the paul smith fight. ward was easily beating smith and didn't have to resort to any cheating but the one time smith wobbled ward what happened? he immediately started holding and bending below the waist until he recovered. if he's in any danger against barrera he will do the same and of course the ref will let him. some people will even say its great boxing if he does it throughout the entire fight.Last edited by daggum; 01-30-2016, 08:03 AM.Comment
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because winning is all that matters to egomaniacs. it eclipses even money. does ward care about what people think? yea but not as much as he cares about winning. in the super six he had the advantage of fighting every fight in his home country and most in his home town while others like froch fought in 4 countries. against dawson he completely drained him in order to get the advantage. we have seen in many of his fights that he has the advantage of being allowed to clinch and jump into opponents without punishment. things like this matter. he then had the chance to make some really good paydays against guys like bute, froch, and stevenson but the circumstances weren't ideal so he passed on them. from the outside it looked ridiculous. top figthers and top paydays for ward but nope. the "little things" that matter in a fight didn't add up for ward.
he wasn't even confident enough to fight froch a guy he beat because he didn't have the same circumstances of the first fight. that should tell you how important these "little things" are. he didn't even want to fight barrera preferring to fight periban but i think he feels comfortable enough since the fight is in oakland so if things aren't going his way he can always resort to his hugging tactics to get him out of trouble. a safety net if you will. we saw a microcosm of this in the paul smith fight. ward was easily beating smith and didn't have to resort to any cheating but the one time smith wobbled ward what happened? he immediately started holding and bending below the waist until he recovered. if he's in any danger against barrera he will do the same and of course the ref will let him. some people will even say its great boxing if he does it throughout the entire fight.
atlantic city and nottingham are about 3500 miles part. AC and oakland are around 3000 miles apart. the worst scorecards in that fight were from the canadian and the american. the brit had ward winning by 8 points. i usually score that fight 10-2. froch really only wins one round clearly.
that you guys are still crying about ward fighting in his "hometown" of atlantic city is absolutely ridiculous. he had no advantages in that fight. he even fought with a broken hand.Comment
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atlantic city and nottingham are about 3500 miles part. AC and oakland are around 3000 miles apart. the worst scorecards in that fight were from the canadian and the american. the brit had ward winning by 8 points. i usually score that fight 10-2. froch really only wins one round clearly.
that you guys are still crying about ward fighting in his "hometown" of atlantic city is absolutely ridiculous. he had no advantages in that fight. he even fought with a broken hand.
you did not read what i said very carefully.Comment
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