Debunking the PBC fighters can't fight on HBO Theory Myth and GGG's HBO contract

[Chollo Vista]

You still have me super excited about the UFC being on ESPN and NBC. When are you going to send me the links to the next UFC fights on those networks? I need to mark my calendar so I dont miss them :blow:

I just told you. The UFC is played on ESPN in the Caribbean. Anything else?

The UFC has done business with NBC and FOX since Dana White has taken over the organization. Do you deny this?

Because before you've said that they've only done business with one organization.

[Chollo Vista]

wow after getting schooled you went to google and actually did some research. Lmaoo....Hey sherlock we were talking about the US. What you think HBO fights aren't on Azteca in Mexico or that PBC fights aren't on boxnation or Televisa?? Of course we are talking about the US just you started making stuff up.

And your major flaw is those tv deals with several networks weren't at the same time neanderthal. lolol. Hey Top Rank isn't only with HBO, they did Pacquiao-Mosley and Cotto-Mayorga on Showtime lololol

Of course promotional companies sign different contracts. The difference is that PBC is using all of these networks at ONE TIME. UFC doesn't do that. Game over.

You're losing your thoughts and are now all over the place and not even making sense.

You asked where were UFC events on ESPN and I told you, just like I told you the UFC has done business with more than one organization.

I'm not sure how you "schooled" anyone. The only schooling you've done is shown the viewers of this thread how to be wrong.

Facts.

[Eff Pandas]

I don't believe there was a Haymon guys can't fight on HBO myth. I believe it was a reality. Evidence? Go look at the last few years outside of the Manny vs Floyd super fight. Hershman can say anything he wants (& I'd suggest you'd not wanna publically disclose a beef like this), but there was clearly something happening between HBO & Haymon.

I believe this HBO/Haymon thing will end under the Peter Nelson regime I will say. Just a matter of when it ends, June with Kovalev vs Stevenson or later in the year or next year with some other fight, but its gonna end. Haymon just gots too many quality fighters & abc ranked guys that HBO would be doing themselves & their own fighters a disservice by not fighting certain Haymon fighters.

[Chollo Vista]

wow after getting schooled you went to google and actually did some research.

Umm, actually I didn't have to do research. I was actually in the Ba***** when I saw the UFC fights on ESPN.

And who's to say I even live in the US?

Or do you think everyone that watches the UFC and posts on boxingscene live in the US?

You're not to bright of a fella are you?

[killakali]

You're losing your thoughts and are now all over the place and not even making sense.

You asked where were UFC events on ESPN and I told you, just like I told you the UFC has done business with more than one organization.

I'm not sure how you "schooled" anyone. The only schooling you've done is shown the viewers of this thread how to be wrong.

Facts.

actually you made yourself look like an idiot when you said that UFC is shown on Fox, Fox2, Fs1, ESPN and NBC off the top of your head. You were talking about currently and in the US. You still havent told me when the next fight is on NBC or ESPN.

You mentioned that about UFC while referring to PBC's time buys in THE US. Apparently you know nothing about foreign television rights. if you did you what have mentioned that the PBC sells the rights to their fights in foreign countries like to Televisa and Box Nation just the same way that promoters on HBO do the same thing.

you then backtracked even more and changed your story to the UFC USED to be on NBC and ESPN when you saw that you got called on making it up.

You were never talking about the past. We were talking about current situations. You tried to be slick. That would be like saying Main Events and Top Rank aren't only HBO because they use to be on NBC, ESPN, CBS etc. Depending how far back you want to go.lolololololol.

your ignorance shined through and I called you on your bs so you panicked and twisted my words and tried to change the meaning of what you originally posted but the readers of this thread are too slick on their toes to get caught up with you hoes.

bottom line is this: Are there similarities between UFC and PBC? Absolutely. Is it the same business model? hardly. lol. I already broke it down to you so this is the final break down. Dana White himself said the big difference of buying time isn't anything the UFC WOULD HAVE EVER considered doing. UFC pays their fighters way less, makes their fighters take fights they may not want or freezes them out. Haymon doesn't do that. UFC has video games, Reebok apparel money coming in, has a long term contract with one network (FOX and their family) that pays them big money, does several pay per views a year, and all of this doesn't occur at PBC.

[Chollo Vista]

I don't believe there was a Haymon guys can't fight on HBO myth. I believe it was a reality. .

You do realize that HBO directed Duva to ask Beterbiev to fight on HBO. Haymon wasn't the reason why the fight didn't happen. It was because Beterbiev only had 9 fights.

[killakali]

Umm, actually I didn't have to do research. I was actually in the Ba***** when I saw the UFC fights on ESPN.

And who's to say I even live in the US?

Or do you think everyone that watches the UFC and posts on boxingscene live in the US?

You're not to bright of a fella are you?

The pbc is a us based company just like ufc. and the tv deals you referred to were in the us otherwise you would have mentioned azteca, tyc, boxnation, sky, rsat, abn, televisa. PBC has several of those and so does UFC but you didn't mention it because you were talking about the us. Now man up and take your loss like a man and not a puta.

[killakali]

I don't believe there was a Haymon guys can't fight on HBO myth. I believe it was a reality. Evidence? Go look at the last few years outside of the Manny vs Floyd super fight. Hershman can say anything he wants (& I'd suggest you'd not wanna publically disclose a beef like this), but there was clearly something happening between HBO & Haymon.

I believe this HBO/Haymon thing will end under the Peter Nelson regime I will say. Just a matter of when it ends, June with Kovalev vs Stevenson or later in the year or next year with some other fight, but its gonna end. Haymon just gots too many quality fighters & abc ranked guys that HBO would be doing themselves & their own fighters a disservice by not fighting certain Haymon fighters.

i don't think haymon will let his guys fight on hbo. why would he? he has so many outlets and hes trying to destroy hbo. why would he want to provide them with content?

[Chollo Vista]

The pbc is a us based company just like ufc. and the tv deals you referred to were in the us otherwise you would have mentioned azteca, tyc, boxnation, sky, rsat, abn, televisa. PBC has several of those and so does UFC but you didn't mention it because you were talking about the us. Now man up and take your loss like a man and not a puta.

What I told you was off the top of my head, I listed all the networks and stations the UFC has done business with. Not one thing that I said was wrong. However, YOU were the one that said the UFC operated under one network, which was a lie.

It's really not that hard to grasp man.

[original zero]

I believe this HBO/Haymon thing will end under the Peter Nelson regime I will say.

Why would Haymon end it? Makes no sense. It's working. Why would he abandon his plan now?

All of HBO's top fighters . . . Haymon has most of the opponents locked up. He'll keep choking HBO slowly until HBO gives up years down the line.

Why would Haymon cave now?