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  • #71
    Originally posted by killakali View Post
    GGG never said he wants to be on pbc smh. He just made 2mil. More than Jacobs Quillin etc. Why would he want to leave?
    GGG made 2 mil on a PPV fight.

    That's only 500k more than PBC guys get on regular tv.

    Can you imagine how much money he'll get for fighting Jacobs on PBC? No less than 3 mil and that's not even counting if they made it a PPV.

    Again, PBC guys get almost what GGG gets on PPV just by fighting on regular NBC. And I'm talking about the Danny Garcia's and Daniel Jacobs.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
      What are you talking about?

      Per the OP "GGG met his 4 fight minimum obligation with HBO as of Willie Monroe Jr". that is simply not true. they have the right of first refusal for any ggg fight.



      Umm, off the top of my head, the UFC is on FS1, Fox Sports 2, FOX and ESPN.



      Man, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about here. Especially when you say the UFC doesn't use sham promoters, it's because they are sham promoters. Have you took one second to look at their fighters payout salaries??

      PBC regular NBC fighters make more 6x more than the UFC's PPV fighters. I've seen PPV cards where UFC fighters got 12K. If that's not sham promoting, I don't know what is.
      that proves that i know what i am talking about and you don't really know anything. UFC matches aren't on ESPN. They have an exclusive output deal with Fox and their family of channels.

      I never once mentioned fighter purses compared to UFC and since you did you only proved my point more that PBC isn't using the UFC business model. Thanks for admitting that.

      UFC is on one family of channels, is the promoter, doesn't use sham promoters and pays way less than not just PBC but boxing in general. There is recap. Class dismissed.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
        GGG made 2 mil on a PPV fight.

        That's only 500k more than PBC guys get on regular tv.

        Can you imagine how much money he'll get for fighting Jacobs on PBC? No less than 3 mil and that's not even counting if they made it a PPV.

        Again, PBC guys get almost what GGG gets on PPV just by fighting on regular NBC. And I'm talking about the Danny Garcia's and Daniel Jacobs.
        PBC doesn't do ppv. They don't believe in it and have never done a ppv

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        • #74
          Originally posted by killakali View Post
          that proves that i know what i am talking about and you don't really know anything.
          Actually that proves you don't know anything given the fact UFC is also on NBC and FX, and Fox. Just a few seconds ago you said they weren't on all these networks like PBC.

          That's wrong.

          Originally posted by killakali View Post
          you only proved my point more that PBC isn't using the UFC business model. Thanks for admitting that.
          http://www.boxingscene.com/ufcs-dana...bc-move--87944

          There are many in the boxing industry who strongly believe Haymon is attempting to replicate certain aspects of the UFC’s business model – based on the obvious pattern of staging PBC cards that are entirely comprised of fighters contracted to Haymon Boxing. Like the UFC, Haymon’s company has set up their own website with a variety of professional writers providing articles and coverage on Haymon-managed fighters and PBC events. Dana White, President of the Ultimate Fighting Championship [UFC], applauds what he calls a “very ballsy move” by Haymon. “First, that’s a huge compliment [that Haymon Boxing is being accused of attempting to replicate the UFC’s business model]


          Originally posted by killakali View Post
          UFC is on one family of channels
          No, they're not. I've given you NBC, FOX and FX.
          Last edited by Chollo Vista; 01-27-2016, 12:30 AM.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by killakali View Post
            PBC doesn't do ppv. They don't believe in it and have never done a ppv
            PBC? Maybe not.

            Al Haymon? Ab-so-fuc-ing-lute-ly

            He's made FMJ the greatest PPV seller in the history of boxing.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
              Actually that proves you don't know anything given the UFC is also on NBC and FX, counting Fox. Just a few seconds ago you said they weren't on all these networks like PBC.

              That's wrong.



              http://www.boxingscene.com/ufcs-dana...bc-move--87944

              There are many in the boxing industry who strongly believe Haymon is attempting to replicate certain aspects of the UFC’s business model – based on the obvious pattern of staging PBC cards that are entirely comprised of fighters contracted to Haymon Boxing. Like the UFC, Haymon’s company has set up their own website with a variety of professional writers providing articles and coverage on Haymon-managed fighters and PBC events. Dana White, President of the Ultimate Fighting Championship [UFC], applauds what he calls a “very ballsy move” by Haymon. “First, that’s a huge compliment [that Haymon Boxing is being accused of attempting to replicate the UFC’s business model]





              No, they're not. I've given you NBC, FOX and FX.

              Again, what are you talking about?
              fox and fx are the same family. name the last time they were on nbc...lol

              So they are the same business model as UFC except they pay their fighters more, pay to put their fights on tv instead of getting paid to put them on tv, don't do pay per views which would be against their slogan of free boxing for all, don't have apparel endorsement deals like Reebok, don't promote the fights themselves since they aren't promoters like UFC and are on many different networks instead of just one family. Besides all that they are just like the uFC right????? lolololol

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
                PBC? Maybe not.

                Al Haymon? Ab-so-fuc-ing-lute-ly

                He's made FMJ the greatest PPV seller in the history of boxing.
                FMJ was never a PBC fighter. nice try though. Showtime isn't PBC either. They both are against the premise of PBC. They contradict it. That's why they arent on the PBC website and they didn't even mention FMJ vs MP. Just isn't PBC.

                You said the PBC model is like UFC. PBC don't do ppv. You might as well quit while you are behind

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by killakali View Post
                  fox and fx are the same family. name the last time they were on nbc...lol
                  You said the UFC has been under one family, which was a lie. That has absolutely nothing to do with the original point of PBC taking the UFC's business model.

                  So they are the same business model as UFC [/QUOTE]

                  That is correct as I've already shown you.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
                    You said the UFC has been under one family, which was a lie. That has absolutely nothing to do with the original point of PBC taking the UFC's business model.

                    So they are the same business model as UFC
                    That is correct as I've already shown you.[/QUOTE]
                    again either you can't read or don't comprehend. I never said they have been under one family. Are you high? They used to be on Spike. I said they "are under one family of channels". You seem to have trouble comprehending.

                    I just showed you all the ways their business model is nothing like UFCs. Also I am still waiting for you to send me a link of when the next UFC fight is on NBC or ESPN lolololololololololol. Off the top of your head like you say. Cant you type it faster off the top of your head lmaooo. This has been so fun

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by killakali View Post
                      FMJ was never a PBC fighter. nice try though. Showtime isn't PBC either.
                      Who said FMJ was a PBC fighter?

                      Are you really trying to say that because Mayweather wasn't a PBC fighter then his affiliation with Haymon is moot?

                      Show me where I once said PBC was Showtime? Haymon does do business with Showtime as does all his fighters. Are you densely trying to deny this in a silly effort to use semantics?

                      If GGG came to PBC, of course he would be fighting on Showtime or do you think he'd be fighting on EPIC?
                      Last edited by Chollo Vista; 01-27-2016, 12:51 AM.

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