Debunking the PBC fighters can't fight on HBO Theory Myth and GGG's HBO contract

[Chollo Vista]

Chollo -

Would be a terrible move for GGG to sign with Haymon.

Yes, GGG earned 2 mil fighting on PPV. Haymon fighters earned 1.5 mil from fighting on Showtime. Hell, Danny Garcia made 1.5 mil from fighting on NBC.

It doesn't take rocket science to figure out that GGG will make the most money with PBC/Haymon.

With the growing stable of PBC, GGG will have no choice but to fight his guys for competitive fights. That is, unless you want GGG vs Korobov and the like?

Haymon isn't trying to sign the biggest stars,

Of course he is. Have you not seen his whole stable??

PBC does NOT offer the most money. It offers more money than most can make elsewhere. It does not offer more money than the chosen few can make through the HBO system currently.

Of course they do. Let's see, GGG made:

2 mil vs Lemiuex on PPV
1.5 mil vs Monroe Jr
900k vs Rubio
750k vs Geale
about 500k vs Murray

On average, Haymon fighter's sht 1.5 mil in their sleep on regular TV. If Haymon sets up a PPV or even Showtime event, GGG is guaranteed to get at least 3 mil if not more.

[Chollo Vista]

i think it was when PBC held their first fight where the commentator never mentioned what specific belt that fighter has.

and they say soon there will be PBC belts/champions.

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Again, I don't know and never heard of what you're talking about so please post links to what you're talking about.

And even if they did, then this fits under the UFC business model.

[OnePunch]

Haymon is neither a manager or a promoter for Floyd.

Floyd is his own boss and Ellerbe is his manager

Floyd has his own promotion company TMT so he is not promoting floyd.

Haymon as far as i know is Floyd's "adviser".

Maidana too has his own manager

so Haymon is an adviser to floyd and a manager for other fighters?

is there such a thing as adviser/manager?

Haymon is a licensed manager. He can call himself a snake charmer if he wants to, he is still a licensed manager and subject to the rules and regulations that go with that license......

[Rath]

Rath, I have read hundreds, if not thousands of your posts. I've visited this site nearly every day since 2004, I just don't like to post much.

Every single thing you posted was incorrect.

Mayweather Promotions did exist when Floyd was fighting for Golden Boy. Golden Boy did not have Floyd under contract. Floyd hired Golden Boy to promote specific fights.

Floyd was his own boss because he owned his own company, which he hired Ellerbe to run.

i posted floyd was not dehydrated may 1st - prove me wrong.

i posted final score card said red corner won - prove me wrong.

i posted there were no registered nurse or paramedics - prove me wrong

i posted there were no videos of floyd being randomly drug tested by USADA besides that 24/7 where he made USADA wait for 6 hours. - prove me wrong

that is just few of my post this recent months.

everything i posted were incorrect you say. LOL

if you say Floyd hires GBP to promote specific fights back then, has there been a floyd none specific fights that was not promoted by GBP?

If mayweather promotion company exist back then why the need to hire GBP for promoting your fights?

well at least there should have been some kind of co-promotion right.

you still not answered my question

Floyd - his own boss

Haymon - Manager and adviser

Promoter - ? ? ?

Ellerbe - ? ? ?

[Rath]

Haymon is a licensed manager. He can call himself a snake charmer if he wants to, he is still a licensed manager and subject to the rules and regulations that go with that license......

i bet you he will never call himself a promoter LOL

i never said he is can not be a manager, maidana maybe the kind of fighter who needs to have two managers that's his style nothing wrong with that.

what i am saying is genius floyd fans were the ones who have been saying long before that Haymon is not Floyd's manager but an adviser so that's what i have been saying too.

[Scott9945]

Rath, I have read hundreds, if not thousands of your posts. I've visited this site nearly every day since 2004, I just don't like to post much.

Every single thing you posted was incorrect.

Mayweather Promotions did exist when Floyd was fighting for Golden Boy. Golden Boy did not have Floyd under contract. Floyd hired Golden Boy to promote specific fights.

Floyd was his own boss because he owned his own company, which he hired Ellerbe to run.

So you read here everyday, but it took 12 years for you to finally set up an account?

Nothing dubious about that...

[OnePunch]

i bet you he will never call himself a promoter LOL

i never said he is can not be a manager, maidana maybe the kind of fighter who needs to have two managers that's his style nothing wrong with that.

what i am saying is genius floyd fans were the ones who have been saying long before that Haymon is not Floyd's manager but an adviser so that's what i have been saying too.

haha true, but the Justice Dept might.....lol

[killakali]

They have taken the UFC business model. Do you think that just because the UFC and PBC differ in how one buys air time makes it so conceptually their business models aren't the same?



Show me where I said that?

I said GGG has met his 4 fight minimum obligation as of Monroe Jr, which is true.

u said he has a minimum of 4 fights. not a 4 fight minimum obligation.. Big difference. UFC isn't on a bunch of networks like PBC or doing time buys and doesn't use sham promoters. They are a promoter. Apples and oranges

[killakali]

Then it's in GGG's best interest to fight on a PBC platform which will most likely be the biggest purse he's ever made against the best available competition.

Based off Team Golovkin's PR, this is what they've always wanted.

GGG never said he wants to be on pbc smh. He just made 2mil. More than Jacobs Quillin etc. Why would he want to leave?

[Chollo Vista]

u said he has a minimum of 4 fights. not a 4 fight minimum obligation.. Big difference

What are you talking about?

Per the OP "GGG met his 4 fight minimum obligation with HBO as of Willie Monroe Jr".

UFC isn't on a bunch of networks like PBC

Umm, off the top of my head, the UFC is on FS1, Fox Sports 2, FOX, Versus, NBC, FX and ESPN.

and doesn't use sham promoters. They are a promoter.

Man, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about here. Especially when you say the UFC doesn't use sham promoters, it's because they are sham promoters. Have you took one second to look at their fighters payout salaries??

PBC regular NBC fighters make almost 6x more than the UFC's PPV fighters. I've seen PPV cards where UFC fighters got 12K. If that's not sham promoting, I don't know what is.