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  • MDPopescu
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    #31
    Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
    Yeah cause it's GGG fans fault the fight didn't happen..

    His coach talks too much obviously...GGG never says anything except he wants to win all the belts at 160. Stop getting mad at people who have no control over anything...
    Actually, back in July 2015, team GGG offered to fight at 164 and then sent Ward to go and win a couple of significant fights and come back to them. Ward hit the road and called Murdock, Brand and Periban. Now, after six months, Ward is still in hiding.

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    • Boxingwizard
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      #32
      Kovalev wants to fight Ward after he beats Pascal, that's not really a bad idea, but Ward needs to make up his mind. I'd rather see Ward against someone like Chilemba or Fonfara.

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      • kafkod
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        #33
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        How do I make more room in my sig, for your future lies/hypocrisies ?
        If you get rid of the crap you wrote yourself trying to link those 2 completely unconnected comments of mine, you can fit another one in easily. Maybe 2 if you keep them short.

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        • New England
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          #34
          sanchez and kovalev don't get along. sanchez dropped him from his stable and kicked him out of the gym after 7-8 fights. kovalev debuted under sanchez, IIRC.


          sanchez is crazy if he thinks ward beating one up and comer puts him on the level with the guy that got on the p4p list off of his wins and dominance at 175.

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          • MisterPullman
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            #35
            Originally posted by just the facts
            Is someone still mad that Ward handled Froch so easily?
            Don't act like Froch is some unstoppable boxer, he's definitely out-boxable

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            • aboutfkntime
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              #36
              Originally posted by MDPopescu
              Actually, back in July 2015, team GGG offered to fight at 164 and then sent Ward to go and win a couple of significant fights and come back to them. Ward hit the road and called Murdock, Brand and Periban. Now, after six months, Ward is still in hiding.

              Fk me.

              So, Team Golovkin sent Ward off to sharpen up his resume ?

              SMH

              Why type **** like that ?

              That is totally ridiculous.

              You just CLEARLY admitted that they ducked Ward.

              * " offered to fight at 164 "
              * " sent Ward to go and win a couple of significant fights "

              Listen to how that rubbish conflicts with Sanchez' take on Ward

              What the *** is up with you guys ?

              Listen, if a poster made those same comments about ANY TWO FIGHTERS IN THE WORLD, they would be called a ducker.

              If Stevenson " offered to fight (Kovalev) at cw "..... then sent Kovalev off to sharpen up his resume..... everyone would laugh their head off...... but you actually gave those two silly excuses as genuine reasons to avoid Ward..... laughable.

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              • MDPopescu
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                #37
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                Fk me.

                ...
                Check the back news -- they sent him to get a couple of good wins and then come back for GGG.
                What Ward did? He called Murdock, Brand etc... and didn't fight any soul up to now.

                (A guy who calls out Murdock, Brand looks serious to you?)

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                • aboutfkntime
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by MDPopescu
                  Check the back news -- they sent him to get a couple of good wins and then come back for GGG.
                  What Ward did? He called Murdock, Brand etc... and didn't fight any soul up to now.

                  (A guy who calls out Murdock, Brand looks serious to you?)

                  That is not what happened, and you know it.

                  That notion is clearly ridiculous, what the fk are you guys on ?

                  When he was inactive, HBO asked Ward/Golovkin if they were ready to fight NOW..... Ward replied that he needed a tuneup..... then, IMMEDIATELY after the Smith fight Ward approached Team Hypekin, and what did they do?..... they made a huge pile of ridiculous excuses AND they demanded a catchweight..... Ward approached them again in September and they refused the offer in 25 minutes flat (meaning, that they didn't even read it).

                  Your spin..... is rubbish.

                  Here, I have a timeline, hope it helps.....


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                  First it was, " Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154, 160, 168 "
                  http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/box...-at-154160-168


                  Then Andre Ward announced his comeback.


                  So it became, " Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154, 160, 164 "
                  Promoter Tom Loeffler of K2 Promotions, who handle IBO/WBA middleweight champion Gennady "GGG" Golovkin (33-0, 30 KOs), says a fight can certainly be worked out with WBA super middleweight king Andre Ward (28-0, 15 KOs). But the deal would have to be under Golovkin's terms and not dictated by Ward. Loeffler feels Golovkin has surpassed Ward as a ticket seller and in terms of name recognition - making GGG the A-side of the negotiations.



                  Then Ward said that he would consider a catchweight.


                  So it became, " Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154, 160 "
                  http://www.mma-core.com/videos/Abel_...ht_us/10102303


                  Then Cotto/Canelo both insisted upon a catchweight.


                  So now it is, " Gennady Golovkin eyes unification at middleweight "
                  WBA,WBC, and IBF middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin said he wants to fight the winner of November’s bout between Miguel Cotto and Saul “Canelo” Alvarez.



                  Then Ward moved to LHW.


                  So NOW it is, " Golovkin Will Go Anywhere To Face Carl Froch! "
                  WBA/IBO/IBF middleweight champion Gennady "GGG" Golovkin (34-0, 31KOs) is still very interested in facing Carl Froch, according to the champion's head trainer Abel Sanchez. Froch (33-2, 24KOs) has been inactive since his big rematch win in May 2014, when he knocked out George Groves before a crowd of 80,000 fans.



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                  Golovkin used to fight in the " anyone from 154-168 " division.

                  Now he fights in the " anyone from 159-161, except Lara " division.

                  THAT is called, failing to back up your ****, just saying.....

                  And btw, Barrera/Kovalev > Golovkin.

                  The notion that you think Ward ducked Golovkin, when exactly the opposite happened, is highly amusing to me.

                  Clearly one of us is a bit clueless

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                  • MDPopescu
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    That is not what happened, and you know it.

                    (...)

                    Clearly one of us is a bit clueless
                    Whatever... But read this one carefully:

                    Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas - Abel Sanchez, trainer of WBA/IBO middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin, has made it absolutely clear that he's not going to budge from his position that a potential fight with Andre Ward will only happen if Ward - the recognized champion at super middleweight - is wiling to meet them halfway at a catch-weight of 164-pounds. Golovkin and his team received more than their fair share of heat in recent days, after placing a catch-weight demand on a potential fight with Ward. The reason for the heat, is because Golovkin was willing to fight both Carl Froch and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. at the full super middleweight limit.


                    It's from July 23 2015...
                    They offered the 164 fight and, as Ward didn't agree, they sent him to get "a few good wins" and come back after he would have got "the buzz going again"...
                    What Ward did you know already: he was after the likes of Murdock, Brand, Periban (?), all supermiddleweiths of some sort... He fought none -- at SMW or above.

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                    • just the facts
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Kovalev #1
                      Don't act like Froch is some unstoppable boxer, he's definitely out-boxable
                      on the same note, don't act like Kovalev is some unstoppable boxer, he's definitely out-boxable.

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