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  • #11
    Originally posted by hhs661 View Post
    Fres Oquendo?? lol hahaha


    I found it amusing also.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by joe strong View Post
      The set up is a joke. Fury is the champion & the winner should get Oquendo not Ortiz/Ustinov Winner. Chagaev is getting a free ride to the final as he will destroy Browne & beat Oquendo. The WBA is protecting Chagaev & is in his team's pocket just like it use to be in Don King's pocket. The Ortiz/Ustinov winner should be fighting the Chagaev/Browne winner. Why is the Real champion & The former real champion having to take a tougher ride to the final? It's a joke!
      Oquendo has to fight the winner of Chagaev vs. Browne because of a court case that guaranteed him a chance at that belt because of what went down in their first fight. The original decision was that Chagaev couldn't fight anyone except Oquendo. But since Oquendo is getting his shot again at the belt they're allowing Chagaev to fight Browne first.

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      • #13
        Read this story and you'll see why Oquendo gets a bye on the other side of the bracket:

        http://goo.gl/Alra33

        Upon arrival in Chechnya, Oquendo participated in the traditional weigh-in and other pre-fight activities such as taping interviews and commercials. The night before the fight, while in an elevator at the hotel, Spencer was approached by two unknown individuals who told him: “You think if you win you leave the country?” Rattled, Spencer conveyed what had happened to Oquendo.


        After the fight, Oquendo asked to be taken to a hospital, where a brain scan was administered and he received some medical treatment. After he was discharged, Oquendo, accompanied by Wirt and Spencer, asked to return to the hotel, but instead was driven back to the stadium. There he was told to take a drug test administered by RUSADA, the Russian anti-doping agency. He protested because he did not trust RUSADA’s tests but ultimately relented.

        Oquendo would later learn from the WBA that he had tested positive for performance- enhancing substances. The record is not clear on what the alleged substances were.

        On December 3, 2014, the WBA suspended Oquendo for six months. Oquendo initially disputed what he calls a “false positive drug test.” He appealed the suspension and then sought reconsideration of the WBA’s denial of that appeal. Ultimately, in exchange for the WBA agreeing to make him eligible for ranking and participation in WBA-sanctioned bouts as of December 7, 2014, he withdrew his request for reconsideration. As a result, he was suspended from the WBA only for the period from December 3 through December 6, 2014.

        The next day, July 7, Oquendo and his team left for the Grozny airport as they prepared to return to the United States. While their passports were taken, ostensibly so they could be stamped by officials, Oquendo, Wirt, Tsatas, and Spencer were escorted to a room where they were met by Du****ev and Müller-Michaelis. Müller-Michaelis urged Oquendo to accept $200,000 in cash, which he claimed to have brought with him in a black briefcase he was holding, in lieu of the $1 million purse. Du****ev revealed that he was carrying a firearm. Oquendo refused and he and his team left the room.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by about.thousands View Post
          Read this story and you'll see why Oquendo gets a bye on the other side of the bracket:

          http://goo.gl/Alra33

          Upon arrival in Chechnya, Oquendo participated in the traditional weigh-in and other pre-fight activities such as taping interviews and commercials. The night before the fight, while in an elevator at the hotel, Spencer was approached by two unknown individuals who told him: “You think if you win you leave the country?” Rattled, Spencer conveyed what had happened to Oquendo.


          After the fight, Oquendo asked to be taken to a hospital, where a brain scan was administered and he received some medical treatment. After he was discharged, Oquendo, accompanied by Wirt and Spencer, asked to return to the hotel, but instead was driven back to the stadium. There he was told to take a drug test administered by RUSADA, the Russian anti-doping agency. He protested because he did not trust RUSADA’s tests but ultimately relented.

          Oquendo would later learn from the WBA that he had tested positive for performance- enhancing substances. The record is not clear on what the alleged substances were.

          On December 3, 2014, the WBA suspended Oquendo for six months. Oquendo initially disputed what he calls a “false positive drug test.” He appealed the suspension and then sought reconsideration of the WBA’s denial of that appeal. Ultimately, in exchange for the WBA agreeing to make him eligible for ranking and participation in WBA-sanctioned bouts as of December 7, 2014, he withdrew his request for reconsideration. As a result, he was suspended from the WBA only for the period from December 3 through December 6, 2014.

          The next day, July 7, Oquendo and his team left for the Grozny airport as they prepared to return to the United States. While their passports were taken, ostensibly so they could be stamped by officials, Oquendo, Wirt, Tsatas, and Spencer were escorted to a room where they were met by Du****ev and Müller-Michaelis. Müller-Michaelis urged Oquendo to accept $200,000 in cash, which he claimed to have brought with him in a black briefcase he was holding, in lieu of the $1 million purse. Du****ev revealed that he was carrying a firearm. Oquendo refused and he and his team left the room.


          The words "title fight" "contender" should never be used alongside "fres oquendo"

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
            The words "title fight" "contender" should never be used alongside "fres oquendo"
            You're a fanboy. You complain there are to many belts in boxing and when the WBA tries to eliminate belts you complain about the set up of the tournament. When I explain why it has to be done that way legally, you still complain. The real issue is that you don't want to see Ortiz vs. Fury. But why wouldn't you want to see the two best heavyweights fight? Because you're a fanboy.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by about.thousands View Post
              You're a fanboy. You complain there are to many belts in boxing and when the WBA tries to eliminate belts you complain about the set up of the tournament. When I explain why it has to be done that way legally, you still complain. The real issue is that you don't want to see Ortiz vs. Fury. But why wouldn't you want to see the two best heavyweights fight? Because you're a fanboy.
              Lmao....

              I'm not a fanboy--- fury is clearly the champ, and Wlad rematch is clearly his next fight..
              As for ortiz, I got no problem with him, even said he is a legit contender and his next fight should be an eliminator to become mandatory #1 contender..


              Maybe of those other belts had any meaning, or where being defended by actual top fighters like Povetkin, ortiz, etc then I might care... But the other "belts" are nothing but cash grab trinkets..

              WBC plays you guys as fools... As soon as all these "belts" are unified, wbc will just go back to handing them out again, rinse and repeat

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                Lmao....

                I'm not a fanboy--- fury is clearly the champ, and Wlad rematch is clearly his next fight..
                As for ortiz, I got no problem with him, even said he is a legit contender and his next fight should be an eliminator to become mandatory #1 contender..


                Maybe of those other belts had any meaning, or where being defended by actual top fighters like Povetkin, ortiz, etc then I might care... But the other "belts" are nothing but cash grab trinkets..

                WBC plays you guys as fools... As soon as all these "belts" are unified, wbc will just go back to handing them out again, rinse and repeat
                This has nothing to do with the WBC. This is the WBA. They have 3 champions and are trying to narrow it down to one. That's a step in the right direction. Fury vs. Ortiz is a fight I want so see. This is a positive step yet you're still complaining.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by about.thousands View Post
                  This is a better article explaining what went down

                  http://goo.gl/Alra33
                  Ok cool thanks , well the final will be Ortiz vs Browne or Chagaev, Fury & Klitschko winner will just give up the belt

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by about.thousands View Post
                    Oquendo has to fight the winner of Chagaev vs. Browne because of a court case that guaranteed him a chance at that belt because of what went down in their first fight. The original decision was that Chagaev couldn't fight anyone except Oquendo. But since Oquendo is getting his shot again at the belt they're allowing Chagaev to fight Browne first.
                    I understand the setup & know about all the rumours around the drug testing yadayadayada but Oquendo had already signed to fight Chagaev again & pulled out because of injury. That should of been the end of it. Browne who was next in line for the WBA scoobie doo paper title was put in his place but yet Oquendo still gets his shot... I hear the winner of the tourney is not the champion until he defeats John Ruiz & Valuev...
                    Last edited by joe strong; 01-18-2016, 11:52 PM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by 285Kid View Post
                      Ok cool thanks , well the final will be Ortiz vs Browne or Chagaev, Fury & Klitschko winner will just give up the belt


                      I could see this if it's Fury...

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