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  • Schifoso
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    #21




    With wrestling you're guaranteed a good show, can't say the same with Boxing when you've got guys like Hopkins or Byrd.

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    • tjmoney
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      #22
      Originally posted by Left2body
      There is also no way you can tell me that a pro-wrestler trains harder or even as hard as boxers or football players.
      Actually there is a way. I played some football in high school, I've trained in a boxing gym, and I've also trained to be a wrestler. There is no comparison. After the first few days of training in the ring, i could barely walk the next day, somethin i've never experienced after a day on the field or in the gym. You are sore for a week after just an hour or so training in a wrestling ring. You have no idea what they go through night in and night out. Which is why a good portion of them become addicted to pain killers. That is a necessary part of their life, no matter how tough you are. I'm gonna chose not to blow up on you because its obvious your ignorant to the business. And by the way, more former football players early deaths have been attributed to steroid use than professional wrestlers, dont beleive me? do the research. Oh and stop bringing up Eddie guerrero as his death had nothing to do with steroids, it was a combonation of a long time addiction to alcohol and drugs, including pain killers, that caused his death. He also was considered one of the clean guys when it came to steroids. This info coming from guys such as chris benoit, misterio, chavo guerrero and chris jericho who traveled with him almost his entire career.

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      • iron mike tyson
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        #23
        Originally posted by tjmoney
        Oh and as for the decrease in size of wrestlers. That trend started in the late 90's after the fans started to become bored with the same suplexes and bodyslams they had been seeing for 20 years already. Wrestlers saw how succesful the cruiserweight divison was in WCW because of the high flying fast paced action. The Hulk Hogans and Ric Flairs of the world just werent keeping the fans interest in the ring any longer because they were too slow and predictable. It was now the rey misterios, chris benoits, and eddie guerreros that everyone wanted to see. Thats the reason why wrestlers are smaller now, it has almost nothing to do with steroids. Wrestlers just like every other athlete are in it to make money. If the big guys are selling, your gonna have more steroid abuse, if the little guys are sellin, well then everyones gonna be cuttin weight. Just like with the lineman in the nfl. Theres been lineman dying every year because of their massive size combined with the intense heat of the summer workouts. But i dont see them getting any smaller, because all the players know that that size is what the teams are looking for.
        if youve been watching wrestling since the 80s you would no the cruiserwieghts (which is basicly lucher libre) was succesful in ecw well before wcw and eric bishof raided the ecw for new talent for the monday night wars

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        • iron mike tyson
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          #24
          and i will also back him up
          eddie g never had nothing to do with steroids

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          • tjmoney
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            #25
            Oh they were succesful in ecw? When the cruiserweights who started the divison in WCW were in ECW it was on at 1:30 in the morning on the local msg network, noone outside the tristate area knew about it except for what they read in magazine articles. I wouldnt call that a success. Did Bischoff raid ecw for talent? you bet he did. But those wrestler didnt make a penny before they got to wcw. And by those wrestlers i mean, Misterio, Benoit, Jericho, Guerrero, Malenko, Psycosis. Trust me, I am not lying about the length of time I've been watching wrestling.

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            • Schifoso
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              #26
              Originally posted by iron mike tyson
              and i will also back him up
              eddie g never had nothing to do with steroids
              HAHAHA! Everybody knows he was juicing on the roids, 80% of people in the WWE are forced to be on roids by vince. Do you really think Eddie, who was 5'8, was able to be 240 pounds of muscle on his own?

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              • Bhopsfan
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                #27
                I do have respect for real wrestlers like kurt angle(greeko- roman/olympic wrestlers) but srry i dont care much about WWE.





                Peace
                Bhopsfan

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                • tjmoney
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                  #28
                  Vince has never "forced" anyone to do any steroids. This was proven in the supreme court when the U.S. Government tried to put the man in prison for doing just that. And eddie was never 240lbs, at his heaviest which was probably at his time of death he was 225lbs. And yes you can get that big at that height, its called hardwork and dedication, I know people with a simalr build to eddie and they've never done a cycle in their life.

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                  • -Antonio-
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by tjmoney
                    Actually there is a way. I played some football in high school, I've trained in a boxing gym, and I've also trained to be a wrestler. There is no comparison. After the first few days of training in the ring, i could barely walk the next day, somethin i've never experienced after a day on the field or in the gym. You are sore for a week after just an hour or so training in a wrestling ring. You have no idea what they go through night in and night out. Which is why a good portion of them become addicted to pain killers. That is a necessary part of their life, no matter how tough you are. I'm gonna chose not to blow up on you because its obvious your ignorant to the business. And by the way, more former football players early deaths have been attributed to steroid use than professional wrestlers, dont beleive me? do the research. Oh and stop bringing up Eddie guerrero as his death had nothing to do with steroids, it was a combonation of a long time addiction to alcohol and drugs, including pain killers, that caused his death. He also was considered one of the clean guys when it came to steroids. This info coming from guys such as chris benoit, misterio, chavo guerrero and chris jericho who traveled with him almost his entire career.

                    I grew up loving both wrestling and football. Id say wrestling and PROFESSIONAL football go hand in hand. As far as the ware and tare on your body they are about even. I played highschool football as well. Its tough on your body, but nowhere near how hard professional football is. Ofcourse I dont know from experience, but these guys go six straight months 6 days a week taking extreme amounts of punishment. Now wrestlers are on the road a lot, but are they always going to have a 20 minute highly physical match? No. Sometimes they have "squashes" where they wrestle for 5 minutes tops. Thats why I say they go hand in hand. Wrestlers are on the road an average of what 300 some odd days a year. Thats a long time and very hard on your body, but its not consistent as far as the physical part goes. In football you have to dedicate around 6-8 months a year to it, however for that period of time you know your going to be doing something physical 5 to 6 days a week. Also the pressure to win is on almost everyone that plays. That starting player knows his team needs him so he has to play with a broken foot and so on. The person backing him up knows he cant sit out a practice because that could finally be his chance to get playing time. Theres just too many ifs ands and buts when you get to a conversation like this. I could tell you a hundred reasons why football is more physical than boxing or wrestling more physical than football or boxing more physical than either and so on.


                    As far as steroids go, they are in both "sports." Early football players probably died because they were uneducated about them where as now they are. That doesnt mean they dont do it because Id say about 30% of the NFL does. I also think wrestlers do. The whole scandal in the early 90s proves so. Aslo with the fact that they just introduced a new policy recently. I agree with you on Eddie Guerrero to an extent. He did die because of his abuse of alcohol and other drugs, but I think one can assume he took roids. In his WCW days he was a much smaller man, and right before his death you can see the huge difference. Look at Rey Masterio as well. The difference in what he used to look like 8 years ago and now is amazing.

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                    • Violent Demise
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                      #30
                      I give pro wrestlers there respect. They earn it.

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