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  • Castillofan
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    #11
    Originally posted by tjmoney
    Thats not true, the also have a drug policy now, but they call it a Wellness program. And if you havent noticed wrestlers are a lot smaller than they were 15-20 years ago. Then the average weight was prolly around 260-280 lbs, now its more like 230-240. So could we please leave steroids out of this, legal or not theyre in every sport, dont belittle wrestlers for doing the same things all pro athletes do. And still its not all of them, actually most of them dont do it. What people dont realize when they see a guy like Triple H that hes been lifting since he was 14. If we had been doing the same thing and working as hard as he has we would be just as big as him. So could we leave steroids out of this, wrestlers get tested like everyone else.
    Yeah, they introduced a wellness program after Guerrero's death, I wonder why?

    How serious is that going to be taken? Being recognized now as "entertainment" means they don't fall under the jurisdiction of a sports regulation body, so how rigorous is testing going to be?

    And you sound as if you are just resigned to steroids in every sport. Is that okay?

    Should we accept that if you want to be successful as an athlete in many sports today you have to inject cycles of harmful drugs into your body and risk heart failure and strokes by the time you're 40?

    Some of the WWE guys physiques are declining now. Maybe it is because they want to abide by the rules, or more so because they were shocked by the death of their friend, Guerrero, and don't want to end up the same.

    Wrestlers deserve respect for enduring what they do, I never doubted that, but it's not in the same league as boxing and never will be.

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    • rocco1252
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      #12
      Originally posted by tjmoney
      Thats not true, the also have a drug policy now, but they call it a Wellness program. And if you havent noticed wrestlers are a lot smaller than they were 15-20 years ago. Then the average weight was prolly around 260-280 lbs, now its more like 230-240. So could we please leave steroids out of this, legal or not theyre in every sport, dont belittle wrestlers for doing the same things all pro athletes do. And still its not all of them, actually most of them dont do it. What people dont realize when they see a guy like Triple H that hes been lifting since he was 14. If we had been doing the same thing and working as hard as he has we would be just as big as him. So could we leave steroids out of this, wrestlers get tested like everyone else.
      how can you leave it out? you notice people like eddie guerero and brittish bulldog and rick rude all who used to take steriods now dead because of that and the effects that took place over the years of using them.

      I respect these guys a hell of alot, that was what I wanted to do more than anything in the world all growing up and actually went to Killer Kowalski's School of Wrestling in Malden on Pleasent St and these guys are amazing at what they do even during training but you cant deny the fact steriods are a huge part of that sport/entertainment.

      But to your question I respect these guys and girls greatly due to their dedication, they go out there 5 to 6 days a week and wrestle their ass's off injured or not. They may not be the best actors or in the best shape or even the most respectable person but they entertain us day in and day out and as K-dog said it is a male soap opera it has sex, fighting, and a story line. They are athletes and no matter what the outcome what the story I respect them.

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      • iron mike tyson
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        #13
        Originally posted by tjmoney
        Thats not true, the also have a drug policy now, but they call it a Wellness program. And if you havent noticed wrestlers are a lot smaller than they were 15-20 years ago. Then the average weight was prolly around 260-280 lbs, now its more like 230-240. So could we please leave steroids out of this, legal or not theyre in every sport, dont belittle wrestlers for doing the same things all pro athletes do. And still its not all of them, actually most of them dont do it. What people dont realize when they see a guy like Triple H that hes been lifting since he was 14. If we had been doing the same thing and working as hard as he has we would be just as big as him. So could we leave steroids out of this, wrestlers get tested like everyone else.
        how long you been watching wrestling?
        in the mid 90s triple h who then was called hunter hearst helmesly was tiny compared to what he is now. then triple h started using steroids to bulk up now the drug testing has come in place he is getting flabby now because he cant use the steroid to cheat

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        • BloodClot
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          #14
          Originally posted by iron mike tyson
          how long you been watching wrestling?
          in the mid 90s triple h who then was called hunter hearst helmesly was tiny compared to what he is now. then triple h started using steroids to bulk up now the drug testing has come in place he is getting flabby now because he cant use the steroid to cheat
          Manny Paquio would KTFO Triple H and the Big Show in the same nite

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          • the_truth_1984
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            #15
            I would call them athletes.Shelton Benjamin and Brock Lesnar were both successful college wrestlers and of course Kurt Angel was an olympic gold medalist.Some are pure athletetes with backgruounds in many sports some are not.But they work hard in that ring and entertaine for that alone they should be considered athletes.

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            • rocco1252
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              #16
              Originally posted by BloodClot
              Manny Paquio would KTFO Triple H and the Big Show in the same nite
              come on big show would put his hand on manny's head and hold his arm out straight and manny would keep swinging but wouldnt get anything but wind maybe triple H but not big show

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              • Eyeh8you
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                #17
                Originally posted by rocco1252
                come on big show would put his hand on manny's head and hold his arm out straight and manny would keep swinging but wouldnt get anything but wind maybe triple H but not big show
                many would just shoeshine The Giant's ball sac

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                • tjmoney
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                  #18
                  Ive been watchin wrestling since the 80's and prolly know more about it than anyone on here. As for the comment on Triple H, he was 240lbs when he came into the wwf in 1995, when he became the wwf champ in 1999 he was 260lbs, the heaviest hes ever been is 265 and that was a couple years ago. He only started looking flabby in 2002 after he came back from ****in his knee up because he wasnt able to train for so long. To this day he has 2 bad knees and hasnt been able to weight train as hard as he used too. Thus him not bveing as cut as he once was. Oh but just blaming steroids is a lot easier i guess. And by the way the plan to put the wellness program into effect started over a year before Eddie Guerrero died. But i guess you could just tell yourself that maybe they were planning on him dying? Sounds about as reasonable as your last reply.

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                  • tjmoney
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                    #19
                    Oh and as for the decrease in size of wrestlers. That trend started in the late 90's after the fans started to become bored with the same suplexes and bodyslams they had been seeing for 20 years already. Wrestlers saw how succesful the cruiserweight divison was in WCW because of the high flying fast paced action. The Hulk Hogans and Ric Flairs of the world just werent keeping the fans interest in the ring any longer because they were too slow and predictable. It was now the rey misterios, chris benoits, and eddie guerreros that everyone wanted to see. Thats the reason why wrestlers are smaller now, it has almost nothing to do with steroids. Wrestlers just like every other athlete are in it to make money. If the big guys are selling, your gonna have more steroid abuse, if the little guys are sellin, well then everyones gonna be cuttin weight. Just like with the lineman in the nfl. Theres been lineman dying every year because of their massive size combined with the intense heat of the summer workouts. But i dont see them getting any smaller, because all the players know that that size is what the teams are looking for.

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                    • Left2body
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by tjmoney
                      Wrestlers just like every other athlete are in it to make money. If the big guys are selling, your gonna have more steroid abuse, if the little guys are sellin, well then everyones gonna be cuttin weight. Just like with the lineman in the nfl. Theres been lineman dying every year because of their massive size combined with the intense heat of the summer workouts. But i dont see them getting any smaller, because all the players know that that size is what the teams are looking for.
                      First off Linemen dont die every year. Yes it has happend on occasion but its not every year or even every 2 years. Also compared to the number of Collega and NFL players I think its relatively low. When I wrestled (real wrestling no pro-wrestling) there were many more instances of deaths due to cutting weight. That is why the changed many rules governing High School wrestling and a couple of rules for college wrestling.

                      I do respect pro-wrestlers for what they are entertainers and in the same category as stuntmen and some circus attractions. It incredible for you to equate that there is just as much if not more steroid use in the NFL as there is/was in pro-wrestling, where is your proof what are you basing this on? Sure there are cases but there is stringent mandatory and random testing. it is easier to believe that a previously non-regulated or loosely regulated group would have wider spread steroid use. The bodies that Ultimate Warrior and others (cant remember names) were just blatantly roided. There is also no way you can tell me that a pro-wrestler trains harder or even as hard as boxers or football players.

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