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  • #21
    Garcia deserves to be there...but Guerrero? Put some competition in front of Garcia.

    The winner of the Thurman-Porter fight is more deserving of a title.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by wlliam View Post
      I dont have a problem with the title being on the line. Garcia was the WBC Champ at 140 so it makes sense to get a shot when he moved up..not unheard of. Guerrero got lucky though..still think hes solid enough opponent.

      Crybabies smh
      Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't WBC policy that if the champion of a division moves up he has rights to jump to the head of the line to fight for that division's belt? Or is that something I made up in my head?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Hougigo View Post
        Who said i'm blaming PBC?

        Said it was a PBC money grab, and who makes money off these sanctioned fights?
        So what you're actually saying is that it's a WBC money grab, to take advantage of the PBC's deep pockets. If so then I completely agree.

        I misunderstood what you meant.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by nycsmooth View Post
          This whole thing smells of hand picked winners & losers.
          How does Guerrero qualify when lately he's losing???.Robinson , who of note has he beaten 2 qualify??? Where are the so called names in the both divisions for this tournament??? this is just a WBC plan to put who they want w/a belt as they did w/ Alvarez a few years back when they elevated Hilton from WW 2 JMWt and he was not even ranked as a JMW...
          He doesn't qualify. Guerrero is ranked #6, Khan #1 and Garcia #2. So how is it the #2 vs #6 is for a vacant belt? Were all the guys ranked higher than Guerrero offered a shot and turned it down? Because that's how it's supposed to work according to their rules. Obviously they didn't do that.

          They just want to make Khan vs Garcia II.

          It's too bad because they blew an awesome opportunity to make a legit tournament to fill the Mayweather vacancy, with most all of them being with Haymon so it's not like it's super complex.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Fetta View Post
            Belts are irrelevant for me so IDC but from this mini tourney thing they are proposing a lead fighter will emerge and im alright with that.

            Who cares if Guerrero is in line for shot. If the WBO thing goes as planned then Pac who just lost will be getting shot at "super" title and Vargas who just lost will be in line for "regular".
            That's fine if you don't care about the belts but wouldn't you rather have a legit tournament? All they did here was take an existing fight that was already made, call it part of the tournament and make it for a vacant belt. There is no structure at all to this "tournament". In fact it's not a tournament at all. This is a huge farce by the WBC. That deserves critisism.

            I would LOVE a real tournament at welterweight. All boxing fans would! They can take their top 15 and make a real tournament with actual structure:

            1 .- Amir Khan (GB) SILVER
            2 .- Danny Garcia (US)
            3 .- Shawn Porter (US)
            4 .- Lamont Peterson (US)
            5 .- Andre Berto (US)
            6 .- Robert Guerrero (US)
            7 .- Omar Figueroa (Mexico/US)
            8 .- Konstantin Ponomarev (Russia) NABF
            9 .- Errol Spence (US)
            10 .- Ray Robinson (US)
            11. Jessie Vargas (US)
            12 .- Sammy Vasquez Jr (US)
            13 .- Charles Manyuchi (Zimbabwe) ABU/INTL
            14 .- Alfonso Gomez (Mexico)
            15 .- Sadam Ali (US)

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Green Hornet View Post
              Garcia deserves to be there...but Guerrero? Put some competition in front of Garcia.

              The winner of the Thurman-Porter fight is more deserving of a title.
              The winner of Thurman/Porter will get the WBA title

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              • #27
                Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
                That's fine if you don't care about the belts but wouldn't you rather have a legit tournament? All they did here was take an existing fight that was already made, call it part of the tournament and make it for a vacant belt. There is no structure at all to this "tournament". In fact it's not a tournament at all. This is a huge farce by the WBC. That deserves critisism.

                I would LOVE a real tournament at welterweight. All boxing fans would! They can take their top 15 and make a real tournament with actual structure:

                1 .- Amir Khan (GB) SILVER
                2 .- Danny Garcia (US)
                3 .- Shawn Porter (US)
                4 .- Lamont Peterson (US)
                5 .- Andre Berto (US)
                6 .- Robert Guerrero (US)
                7 .- Omar Figueroa (Mexico/US)
                8 .- Konstantin Ponomarev (Russia) NABF
                9 .- Errol Spence (US)
                10 .- Ray Robinson (US)
                11. Jessie Vargas (US)
                12 .- Sammy Vasquez Jr (US)
                13 .- Charles Manyuchi (Zimbabwe) ABU/INTL
                14 .- Alfonso Gomez (Mexico)
                15 .- Sadam Ali (US)
                I agree its a "tournament" using the idea loosely but if winner of Garcia/Guerrero fight Khan then im ok. I want the fights, they dont need the belt for me to watch or think its a big fight.

                1 umbrella organization, like i been hoping, would give us that type of tourney but the sport is still to fractured.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
                  That's fine if you don't care about the belts but wouldn't you rather have a legit tournament? All they did here was take an existing fight that was already made, call it part of the tournament and make it for a vacant belt. There is no structure at all to this "tournament". In fact it's not a tournament at all. This is a huge farce by the WBC. That deserves critisism.

                  I would LOVE a real tournament at welterweight. All boxing fans would! They can take their top 15 and make a real tournament with actual structure:

                  1 .- Amir Khan (GB) SILVER
                  2 .- Danny Garcia (US)
                  3 .- Shawn Porter (US)
                  4 .- Lamont Peterson (US)
                  5 .- Andre Berto (US)
                  6 .- Robert Guerrero (US)
                  7 .- Omar Figueroa (Mexico/US)
                  8 .- Konstantin Ponomarev (Russia) NABF
                  9 .- Errol Spence (US)
                  10 .- Ray Robinson (US)
                  11. Jessie Vargas (US)
                  12 .- Sammy Vasquez Jr (US)
                  13 .- Charles Manyuchi (Zimbabwe) ABU/INTL
                  14 .- Alfonso Gomez (Mexico)
                  15 .- Sadam Ali (US)
                  Now that i think about it aren we getting:
                  (2)Garcia v (6)Guerrero for belt to fight (1) Khan
                  (4) peterson v (5) Berto
                  and we read (11) Robinson is in.

                  Porter is fighting Thurman. Spence i think is still at least a year out from this level and Vargas is fighting Ali for WBO. NABF TR declined or didnt answer. Fig is probably still recovering cause that jaw looked wrecked

                  Could be wrong but i thought i read that and if im right, again i might not be, but thats pretty good

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
                    He doesn't qualify. Guerrero is ranked #6, Khan #1 and Garcia #2. So how is it the #2 vs #6 is for a vacant belt? Were all the guys ranked higher than Guerrero offered a shot and turned it down? Because that's how it's supposed to work according to their rules. Obviously they didn't do that.

                    They just want to make Khan vs Garcia II.

                    It's too bad because they blew an awesome opportunity to make a legit tournament to fill the Mayweather vacancy, with most all of them being with Haymon so it's not like it's super complex.
                    They should have just forced Garcia/Khan 2 then. I'm sick of decent fights like that being delayed and built up in situations where there is no point.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Fetta View Post
                      Now that i think about it aren we getting:
                      (2)Garcia v (6)Guerrero for belt to fight (1) Khan
                      (4) peterson v (5) Berto
                      and we read (11) Robinson is in.

                      Porter is fighting Thurman. Spence i think is still at least a year out from this level and Vargas is fighting Ali for WBO. NABF TR declined or didnt answer. Fig is probably still recovering cause that jaw looked wrecked

                      Could be wrong but i thought i read that and if im right, again i might not be, but thats pretty good
                      When you put it like that it's not too bad

                      The only guys being left out are Figueroa, Spence, Vasquez Jr, Manyuchi and Alfonso Gomez. Everyone else is either included, already fighting someone in the top 15, or chose not to respond.
                      Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 01-15-2016, 03:19 PM.

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