Should Carlos Monzon be respected? This dude beat women and killed one

[b00g13man]

It is interesting though that when you ask the guys that keep repeating this 'clinch' business that Floyd is supposed to do so much, which fights he does it in, they never really haver a good answer.

Maidana 2 is really the only fight of his in which I remember he used it more than usual. Other than that, people moan about the Pac fight, but he didn't use it much there, and there's really no others. He just doesnt clinch much and people keep repeating it because they just assume he does.

Yep. There was definitely a lot of clinching in Maidana 2, but that was it. I've been waiting on the list for ages. I know it'll never come.

It's expected though. That guy for instance believes it's illegal to duck punches.

[IronDanHamza]

Legend in the ring. Obviously a terrible person outside the ring but you have to seperate the two. Boxers aren't usually nice people.

He's my favourite fighter.

[New England]

Nothing he did will ever taint his accomplishments in the ring. You have to respect him for this. Outside the ring...well two things people need to remember:

1. He didn't kill his wife in cold blood
2. He served his time in jail

He's not evil. Just a bit naughty.

monzon was a bad, bad guy.

his wife was strangled unconscious before she fell / was tossed off of a balcony...


he also killed somebody else when he fatally crashed a car during a prison furlough.

[Street]

Yes, he will forever be respected as a boxer. Anything done off the ring is every boxers own personal issues I care not about. I don't care that Pacquiao cheated on his wife. I don't care that Floyd hit his ex. I don't care that Oscar wears fishnets. I don't care that Mike is a rapist. I don't care that Cotto sleeps with his fat friend. I don't care for non of that. They were all great fighters and wether you like it or not, have their place in boxing history.

[BigAlexSand]

Nothing he did will ever taint his accomplishments in the ring. You have to respect him for this. Outside the ring...well two things people need to remember:

1. He didn't kill his wife in cold blood
2. He served his time in jail

He's not evil. Just a bit naughty.

Are you serious.
1. He threw his wife off a Balcony!!! He killed that woman!
2. He was still serving prison time when he died but on a furlough.

Not a bit Naughty but a piece of S*** and a sad excuse for a human...

[SweetPbfAli]

You care to name all these fights with the clinches? Please.

I couldn't even bother to reply to his reply of my question. He started with the name calling and brought up the first Castillo fight for no reason. After that, I saw my time would be wasted lol.

[Tom Cruise]

He was a monster. He must have been a psychopath on some level for the beatings he gave to women.

That stuff does get forgotten over time though. When fighters are active their personality is still on display. When they're retired the memories fade. And when they're dead people all but forget about the horrible shit they might have done. Rightly or wrongly that's how it works.

He definitely acted like a psychopath/sociopath in the ring. Absolutely no epathy in the guy. All the fights ive watched ive barely seen him make an emotional gesture. Scary. Its amazing to see on a boxing level, but obviously had terrible effects in his personal life.

Horrific what he did, but i cant help but love watching him box

[Hewito]

Most boxers are ****ty people in real life. It's just the way it is. It doesn't matter how big or small you are in boxing, they all have skeletons in their closets.

Carlos Molina (the 140lb one) is a gang member from Varrio Norwalk 13 for instance. The other Carlos Molina is a child ******er.

Funny how you say carlosmolina is a child ******er..I will never forget the quote from the movie a time to kill...
The witness was accused from being a child ******er,later the defense said " was he a child ******er?,well,he was 18 and she 17 and they have been married for 45 years now,does that make a difference?"..If you come and tell me its exactly the same that a 30 something lures 8 years old as an 18 year old having sex with an 17 year old girlfriend and the parents pressed charges,well,something is not right..That is carlos molina case.

[imperial1]

I don't care how good he was in the ring if your a pos in life you gets no love from me. I can't celebrate a murderer like that.

[Nubia]

Funny how you say carlosmolina is a child ******er..I will never forget the quote from the movie a time to kill...
The witness was accused from being a child ******er,later the defense said " was he a child ******er?,well,he was 18 and she 17 and they have been married for 45 years now,does that make a difference?"..If you come and tell me its exactly the same that a 30 something lures 8 years old as an 18 year old having sex with an 17 year old girlfriend and the parents pressed charges,well,something is not right..That is carlos molina case.

He had sex with a 14 year old.