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  • Dean_Razorback
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    #11
    Originally posted by therealpugilist
    do you think they deserved to be in the hall of fame and why???


    Bro, we live in a country where people even kids are getting killed by police daily and get a slap on the wrist yet you wanna act like racism doesn't exist......that's whats tiresome.



    Im not trying to be disrespectful, what is your nationality and "race"
    ...we're all one race...the human race and all should be treated equal and given the same opportunites and love when we succeed
    where did i deny racism? i acknowledge is a big issue, in your country and everywhere. not just racism, there are other forms of discrimination. but most of yours post and threas are about it. and this is a boxing forum.

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    • therealpugilist
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      #12
      Originally posted by Fetta
      I agree Rocky got in FFS

      Griffey had the sweetest swing i have ever seen...past or present. A true natural player
      I understand why He got in as a non-participant....I was growing up in the 80s and 90s and those movies were instrumental in getting casual fans into boxing....changed my life and outlook on the sport


      Now as far as fighters go and achievements....Gatti, Mancini and Mcguigan should not be in there or at least let guys like Gilberto Roman, Eddie Booker, and guys who've been on the ballot and who beat better fighters get in first


      it has become a popularity contest where the put more weight on " cultural influence" and being in wars trumps skills, dominance....sad sad sad

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      • therealpugilist
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        #13
        Originally posted by Dean_Razorback
        where did i deny racism? i acknowledge is a big issue, in your country and everywhere. not just racism, there are other forms of discrimination. but most of yours post and threas are about it. and this is a boxing forum.
        you are right, I have for the past few days. Not all the time. Its based off the threads that have been hot topics the past few days have involved race....cant deny that bro


        Im all for any athlete that is good at what they do getting shine. Period

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        • Fetta
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          #14
          Originally posted by therealpugilist
          i understand why he got in as a non-participant....i was growing up in the 80s and 90s and those movies were instrumental in getting casual fans into boxing....changed my life and outlook on the sport


          now as far as fighters go and achievements....gatti, mancini and mcguigan should not be in there or at least let guys like gilberto roman, eddie booker, and guys who've been on the ballot and who beat better fighters get in first


          it has become a popularity contest where the put more weight on " cultural influence" and being in wars trumps skills, dominance....sad sad sad
          great movie and thill this day it makes some actually think that i what boxing is but non-participant should be trainer, cut man, corner people and maybe even announcer/manager/promoter type but a fictional character...no

          Gatti i think was more due to the timing of his death and voting

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          • Dean_Razorback
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            #15
            Originally posted by Fetta
            great movie and thill this day it makes some actually think that i what boxing is but non-participant should be trainer, cut man, corner people and maybe even announcer/manager/promoter type but a fictional character...no
            wait, did they induct rocky, the character or stallone? if that's the case they have to induct maggie fitzgerald too

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            • therealpugilist
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              #16
              Originally posted by Fetta
              great movie and thill this day it makes some actually think that i what boxing is but non-participant should be trainer, cut man, corner people and maybe even announcer/manager/promoter type but a fictional character...no
              I thought they put Sylvester Stallone in, not Rocky lol


              Wasn't Stallone a part of Contender or some series for boxing back in the day too

              Some people wouldn't even know what boxing is if it wasn't for those movies.


              I understand your position but I understand why he is in too

              Gatti...McGuigan...not so much

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                #17
                A great read, thanks to the author.

                I think it should be more stringent, and less categories.

                You should rarely, if ever, have to justify why someone was inducted.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  I like the stingy standards of the baseball Hall of Fame.

                  It isn't easy to get in but if you do it's a real honor, something special. And the Old Timers Committee is there to make sure everyone gets a second look as time passes by and gives more of a historical perspective.

                  I'm with you, and for the same reasoning.

                  Good call.

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                    #19
                    I have a question, based on ShoulderRoll's post.....

                    What is held in higher regard, the boxing HOF or the baseball HOF, and why ?

                    My point is..... quality > quantity, anyday.

                    The old-timers are right.

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                    • therealpugilist
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      I have a question, based on ShoulderRoll's post.....

                      What is held in higher regard, the boxing HOF or the baseball HOF, and why ?

                      My point is..... quality > quantity, anyday.

                      The old-timers are right.
                      I second that emotion...the IBHOF has just become a popularity contest

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