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  • GrandpaBernard
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    #31
    Originally posted by just the facts
    JMM doesn't rate higher than Morales?
    Would like to see him explain this also.

    Marquez knocked manny out, which means manny was hurt so bad his body shut down because it couldn't take anymore.

    But Morales beat manny the best in his eyes.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Steve plunger
      Bloated out of shape duran ?...... He weighed the same as the first fight and was not out of shape it's only duran nuthuggers that insist duran was out of shape...duran was in camp for 10 weeks ...yes he blew up during fights but that was not new for duran....I siuggest you actually get to the real facts.....duran won the first by leonard choosing not to use footwork and he still only won the fight by 2 rounds....2nd time leonard moved and never laid on the ropes or traded.....u can see it in both fights, there's also an interview after the fights that Ray arcel said there was no stomach cramps......Duran beat leonard toe to toe and leonard choose boxing and boxed his ears off...style son styles
      He ballooned up between the two fights and was drained clearly. The Duran in the first fight was not the same Duran in the rematch. He did not box his ears off. It was a close fight. The announcers even said that and considering how most announcers in the '80s bashed Duran every chance they got(especially Al Bernstein) then they must have thought it really was close, which it was. Leonard never knew what was coming at him in the first fight. Duran, the natural lightweight, came up and beat a prime natural welterweight champion and Olympic gold medalist. It was an accomplishment second to none and had nothing to do with Leonard's choices. That is a cop-out to say that Leonard was better all along which is opinion- not facts as you claim. The accomplishment was so great that it's very hard to repeat and Duran was not at his best at all for the rematch. The only real fight of the three was the first- that was a classic. The second and third fights were garbage fights compared to that first one which was a real war between two very talented champions. Besides, this thread isn't even about the rematch. I brought it up, but you blew it up...son.

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      • SilverMiles
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        #33
        Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
        The objective of any sport is to win.

        The more thoroughly you win, the better you did.

        manny hurt Morales many times. Going by your line of thinking manny did a good job, which means Morales didn't do as good a job since his opponent had success.

        Your mind says Duran does better because he'd hurt manny and get hurt also just like Morales.
        Objective of the sport is to win. You win by beating your opponent up. Floyd was unimpressive. Duran would be more impressive. Simple enough to understand.

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          #34
          Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
          Would like to see him explain this also.

          Marquez knocked manny out, which means manny was hurt so bad his body shut down because it couldn't take anymore.

          But Morales beat manny the best in his eyes.
          Part time boxer Manny after Magarito war vs Full time boxer Manny in prime. Simple enough?

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            #35
            Originally posted by SilverMiles
            Objective of the sport is to win. You win by beating your opponent up. Floyd was unimpressive. Duran would be more impressive. Simple enough to understand.
            Now you're being silly.

            You must have watched enough boxing to witness countless fighters win on points without dishing out tons of punishment.

            There's more than one way to win. The easier it is for the winner, the better he did.
            Originally posted by SilverMiles
            Part time boxer Manny after Magarito war vs Full time boxer Manny in prime. Simple enough?
            After margarito manny that Marquez beat had more skills and abilities than the Morales edition.

            Plus Marquez KO'd him to top it all off.

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            • SilverMiles
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              #36
              Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
              Now you're being silly.

              You must have watched enough boxing to witness countless fighters win on points without dishing out tons of punishment.

              There's more than one way to win. The easier it is for the winner, the better he did.
              After margarito manny that Marquez beat had more skills and abilities than the Morales edition.

              Plus Marquez KO'd him to top it all off.
              Your opinion, not mine. Morales is the man.

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                #37
                Duran would kill both Gayweather and Mammy in hte same night at the same time with his left pinky

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                  #38
                  i already explained the No mas and something else:

                  When he fought Hearns, he was singing with a Salsa band and getting drunk in the DR just a few weeks before the match.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by el***
                    PEDs today are better than PEDs from the 80s. Got to offset that somehow. 8 years is probably too much but 5 years is probably legit.
                    Yea since Duran ADMITTED TO PED USE

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by eco1
                      duran would kill both gayweather and mammy in hte same night at the same time with his left pinky
                      does he get to use his horse steriods?

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