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Do YOU consider any PBC fighter to be top 10 p4p?

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  • #11
    Originally posted by Omowale Tribe View Post
    I actually do have Garcia in my top 10.

    Who has a better resume than he does at 140? He beat Khan, Matthysse and Peterson (technically at WW since it was a CW). That alone is grounds for P4P, however since most organizations are biased against Haymon/PBC, they refuse to acknowledge Garcia's P4P status. They'll never forgive him for the Salka fight. It's almost as if Salka is on their minds more than the boogeyman Matthysse who Garcia steamrolled.
    I can graciously hear an arguement for DSG being in the top 10, moreso like #10 but considerably being there. The only argument Id have is although his wins against Khan (loved that TKO) and Matthysse were highly superior wins, DSG hasnt made a claim with his recent opponents to hold that #10 spot because any given Sunday you can get a guy get a huge win and grab his spot.

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    • #12
      No! And it has nothing to do with HBO no credible media outlets has any pbc fighters in their top 10. It's mainly because to be the man you have to beat the man. And most of the pbc fighters are not fighting the best guys in their division. If you are not the guy at your weight and are fighting a long string of mismatches sorry nobody going to put you in p4p rankings.

      For example after Danny beat matthysee many had him in the lower half of top 10 rankings. Then he went and had some bad showings in fights many feel he lost that dropped him out the top 10 and fighting guys like a washed up Paulie and washed up Guerrero is not going to get you back in there. Thurman won a interim title what 3 years ago and still has yet to fight a single top welterweight so how the hell can you put him in top 10 fighting guys like Collazo for 3 years straight?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Aztekkas View Post
        You're kidding on the Gonzalez swipe, right? Roman has arguably one of the best resumes in all of boxing as it stands. Has he been on a series of lackluster fights as of late? Sure.. Especially since his move to flyweight, but he has an extremely deep resume and is in his prime.
        Roman and Golovkin's resume combined isn't better than Bradley's. Gonzalez has two good wins, Yaegashi and Estrada. The rest of his resume is filled with past it 36 year olds, prospects and journeymen. His whole Nicaguarian resume should be chunked out the window. Those fights were a joke. Golovkin has never beat a top 3 opponent in his division. Bradley has beat Holt, Alexander, Witter, JMM, Abregu, Peterson, and Pacquiao. He beat them all when they were in their prime. Bradley's resume sh^ts on any fighter not named Mayweather. This is why I stopped taking p4p list seriously. Any list that doesn't include Bradley is a joke.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by about.thousands View Post
          I'm not sure most p4p lists resume into consideration. If it did neither GGG or Gonzalez would be on the list. If resumes were taken into consideration Bradley would be top 3 p4p
          GGG has defended his world title for what 6 years straight and during that time has unified 3 of the top belts in his weight and never come close to losing because he knocked everyone out while Danny has 2 fights that many feel he lost and has been fighting weak competition at 147. And Chocalito has a great resume with big wins at his weight with what 10 straight knockouts spanning on almost 3 years. Comparing either to Danny is laughable. Those guys don't have people yelling robbery at them. Danny needs to step up his competition to get back in the p4p conversation.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by about.thousands View Post
            Roman and Golovkin's resume combined isn't better than Bradley's. Gonzalez has two good wins, Yaegashi and Estrada. The rest of his resume is filled with past it 36 year olds, prospects and journeymen. His whole Nicaguarian resume should be chunked out the window. Those fights were a joke. Golovkin has never beat a top 3 opponent in his division. Bradley has beat Holt, Alexander, Witter, JMM, Abregu, Peterson, and Pacquiao. He beat them all when they were in their prime. Bradley's resume sh^ts on any fighter not named Mayweather. This is why I stopped taking p4p list seriously. Any list that doesn't include Bradley is a joke.
            You lose all creditability when you say he beat Pacquiao when you know damn well most voters consider that a loss twice on his resume. And he never fought khan when many considered khan the best fighter at 140. Lost twice to Manny number 2 at 147 and never fought Floyd who is best at 147. Bradley ahead of either guy is debatable.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
              You lose all creditability when you say he beat Pacquiao when you know damn well most voters consider that a loss twice on his resume. And he never fought khan when many considered khan the best fighter at 140. Lost twice to Manny number 2 at 147 and never fought Floyd who is best at 147. Bradley ahead of either guy is debatable.
              It's still a win on his resume. It's not like he got outclassed, he held his own and proved he deserved to be in the top 3 WW. Even if you take Pacquiao off his resume it's still better than Roman and Golovkin's combined. P4P lists are a joke. It rewards fighters for looking good against inferior competition and punishes fighters for squeaking out wins or losing close fights to good competition

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              • #17
                nope not one!

                ****** still out there fighting cement footed uberX drivers,this is why PBC needs to step up the competition!!!

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by about.thousands View Post
                  It's still a win on his resume. It's not like he got outclassed, he held his own and proved he deserved to be in the top 3 WW. Even if you take Pacquiao off his resume it's still better than Roman and Golovkin's combined. P4P lists are a joke. It rewards fighters for looking good against inferior competition and punishes fighters for squeaking out wins or losing close fights to good competition
                  First nobody considers it a win that's not a debate it's just how it is. As for Bradley he's on everybody's top 10 rankings whether he should be higher or lower then Ggg or Roman is debatable. But what pbc fighters deserve to be here? That's the problem all 3 of these guys deserve it more then most of these pbc fighters who have lost or many feel have lost and are fighting mismatched fights and not the top guys in their weight. That's why they don't get more consideration for top 10 rankings. The closest you have is Danny who was there after Lucas fight and his career has gone backwards since that fight with 2 fights many feel he lost and bad mismatches sprinkled in. That won't get you back in the top 10.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                    First nobody considers it a win that's not a debate it's just how it is. As for Bradley he's on everybody's top 10 rankings whether he should be higher or lower then Ggg or Roman is debatable. But what pbc fighters deserve to be here? That's the problem all 3 of these guys deserve it more then most of these pbc fighters who have lost or many feel have lost and are fighting mismatched fights and not the top guys in their weight. That's why they don't get more consideration for top 10 rankings. The closest you have is Danny who was there after Lucas fight and his career has gone backwards since that fight with 2 fights many feel he lost and bad mismatches sprinkled in. That won't get you back in the top 10.
                    Any p4p list that has Gonzalez and GGG ahead of Bradley is a joke. They all do therefore they're all a joke.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by STAX ON DECK View Post
                      nope not one!

                      ****** still out there fighting cement footed uberX drivers,this is why PBC needs to step up the competition!!!
                      This coming from a weak hoe ass broner fan **** u!

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