When Will Wilder Fight Somebody With a Pulse!?

[Fury4daWIN]

wilder will knock fury out.

pretty sure wilder still loses to povetkin, doe, especially if he's on the juice. styles make fights. povetkin has power, and i think he'll be able to counter wiler with hard stuff.


if fury beats wilder it will be because he's too experienced and outboxes him. still, i htink wilder's being equal in length to fury is going to give him a ton of problems , considering the huge gap in speed and punching power.

The speed difference isn't as great as all that, certainly not enough to make a major difference in the fight, and whatever speed advantages Wilder might have are diminished by his wild telegraphing and predictable shot selection, while Fury offsets his disadvantage by his off-rhythm that makes it hard to read when his punches are being thrown.

Before the Wlad fight I had this one fifty fifty, but Fury's performance in that fight makes me confident he'd embarrass Wilder and probably dominate him over twelve, if not stop him late. Wilder's just too crude and will be hitting air all night. His bodyshot might be a problem though. That's a vicious shot and Fury seems a bit weak to the body; plus it's hard to defend without exposing your head, which Fury will be loathe to do.

[al-Xander]

Anyone betting on a Szplika upset for this fight?
So obvious people tacitly admit this is a huge mismatch.

[just the facts]

When is Wilder going to step up from street sweepers, cab drivers, and part-time shovel salesmen to face elite opposition and become more than a paper champion? Discuss.

at least 6 months before ggg does

[champion4ever]

at least 6 months before ggg does

Ditto, Green K sent!

[LoadedWraps]

at least 6 months before ggg does

What an idiotic comment. Both fighters resumes are weak on paper, but when you add context (as any educated and intelligent person would) It's painfully obvious who has a better resume when you consider who is available to each fighter as an opponent.

And if you can't tell which fighter is more polished using the eye test, then truthfully you DKSAB.

I like Wilder a lot, he is an exciting fighter to watch, but GGG is the more complete, polished, intelligent, experienced, fundamentally sound, and proven fighter and it's not really close.

Wilder may, have a c-hair's edge on GGG's resume, and that's highly debatable, but GGG's AM experience and resume when combined with his pro resume completely destroys everything Wilder has ever done in boxing quite handily. You can pretend like that isn't a factor, but that would just prove even further that you DKSAB.

[Earl-Hickey]

dont forget about him being ktfo by a 5'11" russian cruiserweight in the amateurs

[Slip Stream]

As soon as Wilder gets in the ring with a warm body he's toast. The thing is, if he just shuts the **** up and fights cab drivers he could make a decent living. I do not believe he is in Fury's league.

[LoadedWraps]

wilder will knock fury out.

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Why? That's like saying a guy like Pac, a one dimensional puncher with power, will knock out Floyd, a fighter who does everything better and is only behind in the power department.

Fury does everything better than Wilder literally, and would box his ears off. Then later in your post you say styles make fights. they sure do, and Fury is all wrong for Wilder.

[New England]

Why? That's like saying a guy like Pac, a one dimensional puncher with power, will knock out Floyd, a fighter who does everything better and is only behind in the power department.

Fury does everything better than Wilder literally, and would box his ears off. Then later in your post you say styles make fights. they sure do, and Fury is all wrong for Wilder.

that comparison couldn't be much further out of left field . you're comparing floyd mayweather to tyson fury...


from what planet do you have to be to think fury is faster and more athletic than wilder?


i think wilder is a bad style for fury precisely because he's faster and hits harder, and is roughly the same size in height and reach. you think fury's a bad style, why exactly? because he's british? because he outboxed a 40 year old, completely shot wladimir kltischko? because steve cunningham caught up to him and almost planked him ? fury wasn't all that hard to hit until he foght a 40 year old who didn't throw any punches . brits seem to revise things based on the color of the trunks, which i get. we've had dozens of HW champions. how many have you guys had?


you're also calling pacquiao one dimensional, which is absurd. manny had plenty of extra dimension at WW. he's one of the most dynamic offensive fighters you will ever see when he was at his peak and using in and out motion and both hands to land power. he was shot to pieces against floyd, and hadn't had the footwork that typified his prime and was his best asset in years.


finally i'll add that floyd beats manny at any weight. that's a bad style, particularly when you account for the 5 inch reach advantage that mayweather had, nearly insurmountable at WW.

[Fury4daWIN]

that comparison couldn't be much further out of left field . you're comparing floyd mayweather to tyson fury...


from what planet do you have to be to think fury is faster and more athletic than wilder?

I've heard people use this word to describe Wilder over and over again and I still don't understand what they mean by it. Can Wilder jump higher and run faster than Fury? Yeah, probably. So what? How does that translate to a boxing match? How does Wilder's 'athleticism' (whatever that means) give him an advantage in the ring? He still gets hit plenty, still falls over his own feet and wings punches over the tops of opponents' heads, and he shows an absolutely glacial ability to pick up new skills and techniques. His only real advantage over most of his opponents is that he hits faster and harder than them. That's it. He displays no otherworldly ability to avoid shots, no insane feats of coordination a la Roy Jones, no astounding multi-punch combinations. So where's this athleticism?

In comparison, Fury might never be an outstanding track and field star or a standout basketball player but he's perfectly adapted to fighting. He has excellent hand-eye coordination, fluid footwork, an ability to fight in either stance, a natural understanding of distance, and top level stamina, even when not in training. He's also displayed an almost uncanny ability to improve from fight to fight, which is the hallmark of a true athlete. I wouldn't bet on him to win Superstars, but I would bet on him to beat any man in the division using those tools available.