Who remembers the All Time Great, Ricardo Lopez?!

[-Hyperion-]

look deeper into what i'm saying.

who was there in that era for finito to fight at that weight that would have put him over the top? i might be drawing a blank but nene sanchez seemed to be the top of the mountain, also the nicaraguan dude gave him a good scrap. i agree that lots of mexican fighters have great opposition but if there's no real opposition, you can still deduce a talent with objective eyes.

finito was, to me, what a perfect fighter looked like. i'm not talking about his record either. he was just an efficient monster.

Carbajal and Chiquita were one weightclass up.....

Finito needed a very questionable ruling to keep his 0 the first time he ever struggled. And he didn't really dominate the rematch. Alvarez was good but not "rival of an ATG good"

I'd easily rank MAB, Morales and JMM above him. They proved their skill against the best.

[IronDanHamza]

This is not accurate.

How's that then?

I'm entitled to my opinion and I can easily justify it in a logical manner.

[baya]

There was definitely good career enhancing fights for him if he moved up in weight. He didn't.

At Minimumweight he cleared out. However the division was very weak, meaning his resume is not impressive.

If we're talking skill wise then yeah Lopez was very skilled.

that's the discussion as i understand it, Dan.

[SterlingStained]

not everyone moves up. he was the cleanse.

There was definitely good career enhancing fights for him if he moved up in weight. He didn't.

At Minimumweight he cleared out. However the division was very weak, meaning his resume is not impressive.

If we're talking skill wise then yeah Lopez was very skilled.

Carbajal and Chiquita were one weightclass up.....

Finito needed a very questionable ruling to keep his 0 the first time he ever struggled. And he didn't really dominate the rematch. Alvarez was good but not "rival of an ATG good"

I'd easily rank MAB, Morales and JMM above him. They proved their skill against the best.

there it is.

khasoi galaxy is another one of those lower weight greats that i would have loved to see lopez take on along with carbajal and chiquita.

some people say blame beristain for it.

[lefthook2daliva]

Have been watching some of Finito's fights on youtube recently. You can see his influence (actually Nacho's I suppose) in the combinations of JMM.

In a thread like this, I always wonder if there is some ulterior motive at play.

In this case, I'm wondering if the OP is suggesting something about Wlad Klitschko or maybe Floyd Mayweather.

[Szef]

I remember him.

Not an ATG IMO.

3rd paragraph summed it up perfectly.

Yeah, but could you now compare him to Golovkin?

Because GGG is the reason why the TS had to boxrec him.

Smh.

This forum is like a teenage girls' locker room - too much estrogen, not enough brain cells.

[baya]

Carbajal and Chiquita were one weightclass up.....

Finito needed a very questionable ruling to keep his 0 the first time he ever struggled. And he didn't really dominate the rematch. Alvarez was good but not "rival of an ATG good"

I'd easily rank MAB, Morales and JMM above him. They proved their skill against the best.

i can respect that. i can also respect a guy being comfortable and cleansing his weight class.

hyp, i love that you, as a mexican, are so ..... skeptical of mexican fighters. makes you a guys guy.

[baya]

there it is.

khasoi galaxy is another one of those lower weight greats that i would have loved to see lopez take on along with carbajal and chiquita.

some people say blame beristain for it.

you can only blame beristain for being so damn good at his job.

[-Hyperion-]

there it is.

khasoi galaxy is another one of those lower weight greats that i would have loved to see lopez take on along with carbajal and chiquita.

some people say blame beristain for it.

chiquita was his stablemate.....its understandable that he didnt face him, but that doesn't mean we should give him a pass....it's not like he was his brother.
And more importantly, Carbajal was the money guy so why not face him?
He was kinda young to go up two weightclasses against khaosai, so i won't hold that one against him.

But come on.....Lopez's best wins are: Alvarez? Sor Vorapin(who had just been upset and KO'ed)? those guys are the best known and, though they were top mimimumweights with impressive records, they also just feasted on bums.

[-Hyperion-]

i can respect that. i can also respect a guy being comfortable and cleansing his weight class.

hyp, i love that you, as a mexican, are so ..... skeptical of mexican fighters. makes you a guys guy.

Well, I'll give Lopez credit. He was miles better than the bum Calderun