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Broner: "I have to give it to Andre Ward"(P4P King)

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  • #11
    Originally posted by j0zef View Post
    No doubt they do.

    But I gotta say, there's a big difference between Floyd taking 2 years off between Hatton and JMM versus taking 2 years off between Edwin Rodriguez and Paul Smith. Ward's last good win was 3 or arguably 4 years ago.

    I appreciate his skills, I truly do, but dislike his personality and inactivity.
    I don't have Ward #1 because of inactivity. I was just making an observation. And it makes sense because a lot of these guys know each other from the amateurs so trainers knew these guys and they knew each other when they were young kids on the come up. Participated in the same tournaments, went to the same camps, trained at the same gyms, etc.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Clegg View Post
      If Broner agreed with me about something I'd start doubting myself.

      ..................dead

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      • #13
        https://twitter.com/AdrienBroner/sta...82858469228544

        Adrien Broner ‏@AdrienBroner
        A lot of people who say they brother and sister have had sex before

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        • #14
          Who cares what this idiot thinks.

          and btw you can't be default anything on a list that technically doesn't exist.

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          • #15
            Rigondeaux' skills far exceed Ward. Ward would be second but Rigondeaux is miles ahead.

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            • #16
              P4P is a load of nonsense.

              If anyone can remotely describe how it's supposed to work, let me know.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by NEETzsche View Post
                if ward was currently p4p #1 then he'd be fighting kovalev right now, not spending a whole year tuning up
                ... what tuning up?... at home, perhaps.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
                  You can't be p4p because of what you did years ago.

                  Are we going to put Mosley in the top 10 because he was there about 5 years ago and just won a fight? not at all, so why shouldn't that logic apply to Ward?

                  He's fought twice in 3 years against D-level fighters and has no fights lined up either.

                  It's not like we even know if he's as good as he was. How could we know? he doesn't fight much and when he does he fights poor competition. He's been very inactive and also coming up 32, it's not old of course, but he's not getting any younger and has huge spells of inactivity. It's only going to have a negative effect.

                  I don't care how skilled you are or were in theory, if you're not putting it to practice in the ring then against good fighters then you don't belong on the list.

                  You also can't be pound for pound for what you've never done.


                  Your Mosley analogy is just ******. Really ******. There are no similarities between Mosley's situation and Ward's.

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                  • #19
                    His body of work is quite good but he definitely needs to push on now.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                      You also can't be pound for pound for what you've never done.


                      Your Mosley analogy is just ******. Really ******. There are no similarities between Mosley's situation and Ward's.
                      How is it any different? Both were P4P fighters at one point. One about 3 years ago, the other about 5-6.

                      What is the cutoff point to where you've done nothing in that time but still considered p4p? must be about 4 years i'm guessing.

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