Jordan turned back on Ward to sign GGG...

[Irony123]

if actually true then no surprise here.

Choice 1

Inactive fighter
losing popularity (due to inactivity)
not exciting
not international

Choice 2

Very active fighter
massive surge in popularity
very exciting
intentional growth in popularity

as a corporation who would you sign up to get brand recognition?

[j0zef]

Taffet never even feigned to mention a number for the Golovkin fight, yet he was more than willing to put his neck out there and say that Cotto-Alvarez did at least 900k ppv buys, waiting past the ten-day initial window generally needed to come up with solid initial projections.

I'm not laying my hat on Glazer's numbers, but the fact that Tom Loeffler is the only source putting his name behind the 150k ppv number, and he was the promoter of the event, makes the "just made my stated break-even number" even more bull****. The PPV, when the count actually happened, likely sold around 110k PPV buys, obviously lost money, and HBO's PPV guy was able to rationalize taking that L because sports fans in the #1 and #3 media markets were otherwise occupied.

For a "former promoter", you sure do support some bull**** notions.

Hahahahaha.
So just to recap, you think that ESPN, a company with a 45busd dollar valuation, put quotes from Loeffler and Taffet in the same article without Taffet knowing about it? You think Taffet read the ESPN article and thought "well that's not true, but what the hell, I'm not gonna ask them to correct it"?


That's not how reporting works. This is not an opinion piece by small town newspaper. If Taffet was not aware and did not agree to the article he was quoted in, it would have been redacted or updated the next day. People have gotten canned for misreporting results. It destroys the company's credibility.
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Also, here's an article published in SportsIllustrated magazine BEFORE the fight that says what they want to achieve as far as PPV numbers.

The hope is that a strong showing (150,000 buys is considered good; anything over 200,000 is a smash) will generate the financial incentive needed to entice the biggest names in the division (Miguel Cotto and Saul Alvarez, specifically) into the ring. Says Loeffler, "[Saturday] is paramount for his career."

[OnePunch]

Hahahahaha.
So just to recap, you think that ESPN, a company with a 45busd dollar valuation, put quotes from Loeffler and Taffet in the same article without Taffet knowing about it? You think Taffet read the ESPN article and thought "well that's not true, but what the hell, I'm not gonna ask them to correct it"?


That's not how reporting works. This is not an opinion piece by small town newspaper. If Taffet was not aware and did not agree to the article he was quoted in, it would have been redacted or updated the next day. People have gotten canned for misreporting results. It destroys the company's credibility.
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Also, here's an article published in SportsIllustrated magazine BEFORE the fight that says what they want to achieve as far as PPV numbers.

Yep, you nailed it. Taffet wouldnt care that the article inferred his agreement with the numbers.

And of course the SEC wouldnt care that a high level executive of a publicly traded company was participating in a misstatement of earnings. No big deal.......lol


oh, and dont forget. It would all be just to inflate ggg's numbers by 53k for the 50 hardcores on a message board who will actually care

[deathofaclown]

but maybe Jordan is still endorsing Ward as well -- he's a very big star now, since Floyd retired.

Eh? What?

Has he even fought since Floyd retired? he doesn't even have a fight lined up and had his fights blocked for trying to pick on actual bums.

He's not a star and never will be. The only people who know him are the types of people who frequent these boards, and even then only a bunch of bedwetters from here like him.

[deathofaclown]

Who do you think they'd rather represent anyhow? The widely considered P4P #1 or #2 or the guy who just did 97k on PPV and refuses to fight anyone of note in or around his division?

Seriously?

He's fought twice in about 3 years against two very very average D-level fighters.

You can't be p4p because of past achievements from years ago because you had a fairly recent win. Lets put Mosley back in the p4p rankings?? he was also there not long before Ward was back in around 2009/2010 and just won a couple of fights. No, of course not..so why should Ward be? we don't even know if he's anything like he was, how can we be sure? he doesn't even fight and when he does it's against bums.

[MDPopescu]

Eh? What?

Has he even fought since Floyd retired? he doesn't even have a fight lined up and had his fights blocked for trying to pick on actual bums.

He's not a star and never will be. The only people who know him are the types of people who frequent these boards, and even then only a bunch of bedwetters from here like him.

What do you know? He slick, doe -- he beat even John Smith.

[Scipio2009]

The man can only face those who are willing to climb in the ring with him, so yeah, I "stand behind" that.

And to hold it against him that its a "weak era" is just ******ed. Unless of course you truly believe the likes of Holmes, Taylor, Pavlik, Mullings, Echols, Allen, etc would have beaten him. Even you arent dumb enough to believe that. Besides an argument for Jones or Toney, You'd have to go all the way back to the Hagler, Leonard, Hearns, Duran era to find a middleweight that you could reasonably pick as a favorite to beat him.

Do yourself a favor. Ignore his skin color and just enjoy watching a special talent do his thing.

Golovkin could've had fights with Andre Ward, Erislandy Lara, and likely Demetrius Andrade (all fighters who beat the breaks off of any and all the names of bodies that K2 has put in the ring with Golovkin), yet avoided those fights like a punk.

And let's be honest here; prime Jermain Taylor [5'11, 75" reach, long pop and can move] beats Gennady Golovkin soundly, prime Kelly Pavlik [6'2, 75" reach, long pop] beats Gennady Golovkin, old middleweight Hopkins beats Golovkin, and a fit Sergio Martinez befuddles the **** out of Golovkin.

Folks like you keep trying to justify the Golovkin hype with "ignore his skin color", yet refuse to acknowledge that if you did the same for Peter Quillin, his actual resume ****s on Golovkin's entire resume (even with the KO defeat).

Enjoy the can crushing if you want; I'd rather not waste my time.

[OnePunch]

Golovkin could've had fights with Andre Ward, Erislandy Lara, and likely Demetrius Andrade (all fighters who beat the breaks off of any and all the names of bodies that K2 has put in the ring with Golovkin), yet avoided those fights like a punk.

And let's be honest here; prime Jermain Taylor [5'11, 75" reach, long pop and can move] beats Gennady Golovkin soundly, prime Kelly Pavlik [6'2, 75" reach, long pop] beats Gennady Golovkin, old middleweight Hopkins beats Golovkin, and a fit Sergio Martinez befuddles the **** out of Golovkin.

Folks like you keep trying to justify the Golovkin hype with "ignore his skin color", yet refuse to acknowledge that if you did the same for Peter Quillin, his actual resume ****s on Golovkin's entire resume (even with the KO defeat).


Enjoy the can crushing if you want; I'd rather not waste my time.

haha seriously? Ndam?? Rosado?? Old wink coming off a THREE YEAR layoff?? haha a real murderers row.

[Scipio2009]

Hahahahaha.
So just to recap, you think that ESPN, a company with a 45busd dollar valuation, put quotes from Loeffler and Taffet in the same article without Taffet knowing about it? You think Taffet read the ESPN article and thought "well that's not true, but what the hell, I'm not gonna ask them to correct it"?


That's not how reporting works. This is not an opinion piece by small town newspaper. If Taffet was not aware and did not agree to the article he was quoted in, it would have been redacted or updated the next day. People have gotten canned for misreporting results. It destroys the company's credibility.
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Also, here's an article published in SportsIllustrated magazine BEFORE the fight that says what they want to achieve as far as PPV numbers.

Read the articles for yourself.

Beyond that, let's not act like ESPN was putting the weight of the entire company behind the statement; it was a blog post, by ESPN's boxing writer, that only got real pub on the Boxing site of ESPN.com. The information wasn't used on the main page, wasn't used on First Take, SportsNation, or Highly Questionable, and ESPN (as far as I can recall) didn't run the information on their ticker for Sportcenter.

You add that Rafael wasn't ****** enough to try and actually attribute Loeffler's numbers to Taffet, though he did try to get people to assume so by word placement, and there was no need for Taffet to do anything.

[Scipio2009]

haha seriously? Ndam?? Rosado?? Old wink coming off a THREE YEAR layoff?? haha a real murderers row.

Wright, N'Dam, Guerrero, Rosado, Konecny, Lee, Zerafa, Jacobs, as a middleweight resume, ****s on Golovkin's last three years in the sport, without much doubt.

Who has Golovkin fought worth anything in the last three years?

Quillin at least has N'Dam, Guerrero, Lee, Jacobs, and maybe Rosado on his resume.