stop the madnesss, GGG doesnt have 15 title defenses and isnt close to any record

[Nay_Sayer]

Doesn't matter, still has the title.

NO.

Not even close.

Bumlovkin has *a* title. Specifically, a *paper* title.

Canelo has *the* title seeing as Alvarez is *the* champion @ middleweight. Period, end of...

1 + 1 = 2

[cheeseburger]

NO.

Not even close.

Bumlovkin has *a* title. Specifically, a *paper* title.

Canelo has *the* title seeing as Alvarez is *the* champion @ middleweight. Period, end of...

1 + 1 = 2

Fuq off you racist oxygen thief.

[therealpugilist]

While I have been critical of GGG not fighting Ward and Lara, I will say that he kept being elevated by the WBA because no one wanted to fight him. That's kind of a fact. Also him not facing top talent today... Again people don't wants to fight him unless it's the right price.

you get credit for fights that happen not fights not being made......Arum and company did the same thing pumping up Margarito.....people on forums giving him credit saying people ducked him....that's not a win bro, that's bs ....you earn titles by fighting, not having them mailed to you or decided in board rooms

[Nay_Sayer]

While I have been critical of GGG not fighting Ward and Lara, I will say that he kept being elevated by the WBA because no one wanted to fight him.

You have just contradicted yourself. How is it that nobody wanted to fight Bumlovkin and yet you're critical of him for not fighting Lara and Ward? It seems to me like Lara and Ward wanted to fight so your argument that "nobody wanted to fight" is dead in the water...

[therealpugilist]

Doesn't matter, still has the title.

If I used this logic, I could say, "Technically, GGG should be lineal/wbc champion since Murray was robbed against Martinez and proceeded to get stopped when he fought Golovkin".


Either way, this is not a big deal. Shut up and enjoy the GGG fights.

no dumby....my logic says titles are won in the ring and not message boards....Canelo is the champion and GGG is a top contender


those are the facts and arguing who is the best is just opinion...I like both fighters

[Nay_Sayer]

fair is fair and the truth is the truth.....this era of fans aren't boxing fans, they are just fans of certain fighters


dont take anything away from a fighter that they earned. If you want something you have to earn it the same way that other fighters have.


I have my favorites but dang I dont change what I consider right or wrong just to benefit a fighter I likes resume.


**** know nothing newbies




Monzon and Hagler earned their titles.......Canelo earned is in the ring like they did.....we can argue who the best today is all day but the fact of the matter is Canelo is the champion and any defenses of a trinket when their is a lineal/recognized champion, means nothing at all

In the words of the great Bishop Don "Magic" Juan; Church, Preach, Tabernacle.

[therealpugilist]

[QUOTE=Gentblue;16333353]While I have been critical of GGG not fighting Ward and Lara, I will say that he kept being elevated by the WBA because no one wanted to fight him. That's kind of a fact. Also him not facing top talent today... Again people don't wants to fight him unless it's the right price.[/QUOTE]

duh.....this is prizefighting

[Nay_Sayer]

Fuq off you racist oxygen thief.

Your mom says hello.

Lol..

[-PBP-]

Why does it matter? Even Hopkins "title defenses" are flawed because its not equivalent to the 1 belt/1 champion system that was in place in the old days.

[therealpugilist]

I think there is an argument to be made that Jacobs is the true #1 contender @ 160 behind the champion Canelo Alvarez. Jacobs just destroyed a top 2 ranked 160lb'er in one round - something which Bumlovkin has *never* done...

now that you mentioned it....who was the highest ranking GGG opponent...I know Lemmie was 5


Was Murray or Geale as high as 2 when he beat them

Qullin was 2 and that's pretty high