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  • Pigeons
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    #51
    Originally posted by Ray*
    So Adonis is the one that isnt tied down? So who is taking the blame here? the guy that is restricted or the one that isn't? If people are accusing Adonis or "Running" to Showtime or Haymon how come no one is accusing Kovalev or signing with HBO?
    You know why...

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    • Trinidad_Fan
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      #52
      So let's recap.......

      Kovalev wants the fight.
      The fans want the fight.
      MSG wants the fight.
      MGM wants the fight.
      The promoters want the fight.

      Let's see....... I feel like I'm missing someone here.

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      • bluebeam
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        #53
        Originally posted by Ray*
        Is that why Showtime paid adonis more money? at the end of the day the fighters and their teams would go with the biggest and best deals, no fighter would be with HBO just because " Every fighter in the world wants a contract with HBO"........If showtime offers Kovalev a better deal best believe he would move there rather than re-new his contract at HBO.....Which Adonis did by the way, I just laugh at this comments about "Adonis running to showtime"
        Adonis went to showtime and his contract expired with Showtime. They didn't re sign him.

        What's the holdup now?

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        • bluebeam
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          #54
          Originally posted by about.thousands
          That's not hard to understand. What's hard to understand is why should Stevenson take less money than he could make just because Kovalev is hamstrung by his HBO contract? This fight should've been made last year when it went up for purse bid. At that time Kovalev didn't have an exclusive contract with HBO. When both fighters were free to fight on any network and stood to make a lot of money, Kovalev resigned an exclusive contract with HBO.

          You are talking about last year.

          The past isn't relevant in making this fight for june.

          I'm not even mad at Stevenson for going to showtime instead of fighting kovalev, he did what was best for his pockets.

          but Adonis is no longer a showtime fighter so now there is no excuse.

          The facts are Kovalev can only fight on hbo.
          Stevenson can fight on hbo or showtime.

          So either Stevenson fights him on hbo or the fight won't happen.

          We all know this, so why talk about 2014 or 2015.

          I'm talking about the roadblocks for 2016, that shouldn't even be roadblocks.

          Duva is saying hbo will allow Adonis on their network. And the new head of hbo says he isn't opposed to haymon fighters fighting on the network.

          Adonis Stevenson could potentially end the haymon/hbo cold war, by coming over and fighting for the undisputed light heavyweight championship of the world.

          Only a hater would oppose that
          Last edited by bluebeam; 12-16-2015, 01:15 PM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Trinidad_Fan
            So let's recap.......

            Kovalev wants the fight.
            The fans want the fight.
            MSG wants the fight.
            MGM wants the fight.
            The promoters want the fight.

            Let's see....... I feel like I'm missing someone here.
            Kovalev could have had the fight at the start of 2015, but he decided to sign with HBO instead.

            Sounds like a team that wants to have their cake and eat it too. I'm sure he'd fight Stevenson, but his team wants it on their terms (HBO, etc). They are no more interested in making this fight "for the fans" than Stevenson's side is.

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            • Fetta
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              #56
              Originally posted by Trinidad_Fan
              So let's recap.......

              Kovalev wants the fight.
              The fans want the fight.
              MSG wants the fight.
              MGM wants the fight.
              The promoters want the fight.

              Let's see....... I feel like I'm missing someone here.
              Yes you are..Stevenson wants the fight but...DUVA!!!!!!!!!!!

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                #57
                Originally posted by bluebeam
                You are talking about last year.

                The past isn't relevant in making this fight for june.

                I'm not even mad at Stevenson for going to showtime instead of fighting kovalev, he did what was best for his pockets.

                but Adonis is no longer a showtime fighter so now there is no excuse.

                The facts are Kovalev can only fight on hbo.
                Stevenson can fight on hbo or showtime.

                So either Stevenson fights him on hbo or the fight won't happen.

                We all know this, so why talk about 2014 or 2015.

                I'm talking about the roadblocks for 2016, that shouldn't even be roadblocks.

                Duva is saying hbo will allow Adonis on their network. And the new head of hbo says he isn't opposed to haymon fighters fighting on the network.

                Adonis Stevenson could potentially end the haymon/hbo cold war, by coming over and fighting for the undisputed light heavyweight championship of the world.

                Only a hater would oppose that
                The past is very relevant in making the fight because we know in the past Adonis and Kovalev stood to make a lot of money. You seriously can't expect a person to do a job for less than they were offered previously?

                Those are promising words coming from Duva and HBO. What type of money are they offering? Does it match what Kovalev and Stevenson could've made when their skills were offered on the free market? If not then the fight is a no go. When we start hearing dollar figures that's when we'll know if they're serious or not.

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                • brettWall
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                  #58
                  Duva is wasting her time. Move on lady. The guy is scared.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Trinidad_Fan
                    So let's recap.......

                    Kovalev wants the fight.
                    The fans want the fight.
                    MSG wants the fight.
                    MGM wants the fight.
                    The promoters want the fight.

                    Let's see....... I feel like I'm missing someone here.
                    Originally posted by Fetta
                    Yes you are..Stevenson wants the fight but...DUVA!!!!!!!!!!!
                    Yeah Fetta, I noticed he left that out as well.

                    I wonder if HBO really wants the fight?

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                    • Ray*
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by bluebeam
                      Adonis went to showtime and his contract expired with Showtime. They didn't re sign him.

                      What's the holdup now?
                      You tell me what the hold up is/was, last time I heard there was a purse bid that was called for, one team attended the purse bid. That shows intent, the other avoid the bid and made excuses, no excuses....

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